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Re: Exec Order to open the spigots

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 12:29 pm
by Rideback
Tristan; except he's not Read the articles. None of the water makes it to Southern California. It is flooding towns and agricultural land and is happening simultaneously with an atmospheric river of rain hitting the same area. There's nothing environmentalist about what he's doing whatsoever. Zero. Zip.
Meanwhile, California is prepositioning resources to deal with the landslides and flooding that is now exacerbated by Trump's Fed'l release of water from the reservoirs. Come summer there will be that much less water in storage to help fight wildfires.

Re: Exec Order to open the spigots

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 11:42 am
by tristanbgilb
I am thrilled of Trump being the environmentalist so many discredit him for. He is letting the water run free for all the animals and fishes. He is giving life to a dry land and dismal streams. I am not in opposition of him helping nature above financial interests.

Re: Exec Order to open the spigots

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:54 am
by Rideback
Best explanation I've seen.
https://thinc.blog/2025/02/01/trump-dum ... o-purpose/
and of course he's done this just as an atmospheric river of rain is arriving in n calif.

Re: Exec Order to open the spigots

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:17 am
by just-jim
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Re: Exec Order to open the spigots

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:42 am
by mister_coffee

Re: Exec Order to open the spigots

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:14 am
by mister_coffee
You are making the assumption that he even knows that it is a lie.

I think Tristan, Ken, and Vern owe us an explanation about how this is okay or makes sense.

Re: Exec Order to open the spigots

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:37 am
by Rideback
Monday night Truth Social post from Donald Trump:

'The US Military has just entered the great state of California and, under Emergency Powers, TURNED ON THE WATER, flowing abundantly from the Pacific Northwest and beyond. The days of putting a fake Environmental Argument, over the people are over. Enjoy the water California!'

So there you have it. The enormity of this lie is incalculable.

Re: Exec Order to open the spigots

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:16 am
by just-jim
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Oh….ThAT’S a great strategy on the part of FELON Fatso and his Minnie-me! ‘Not enuf people dislike us already - so, let’s start a pissing match with the Catholic Church’.

Brilliant.
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Re: Exec Order to open the spigots

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:35 am
by Rideback
If it weren't for the misspellings and copy and pastes in the EO's I'd be suspicious that AI was driving much of Trump's choices. This morning Vance is branching out, accusing the Catholic Church of offering safe haven to immigrants because it gets them $. 'On Face the Nation, Opus Dei acolyte JD Vance insists that in questioning Trump immigration policies, the Catholic Church is motivated by greed and not Christian compassion. “The US Conference of Catholic Bishops needs to look in the mirror a little bit & recognize that when they receive more than $100m to resettle illegal immigrants, are they worried about humanitarian concerns or are they worried about their bottom line?”

Re: Exec Order to open the spigots

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 6:47 am
by mister_coffee
Don't tell them the faucet is hidden underneath the Taco Time in The Dalles, Oregon.

This is also a Good Time to bring up that there ought to be a law that anything submitted to the Federal Register (e.g. Executive Orders and Federal Laws) must be written by humans and not by AIs. For that matter all submission and opinions in Federal Courts ought to be written by humans as well.

If only to keep the AIs from sneaking one past us.

Re: Exec Order to open the spigots

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 7:52 pm
by Rideback
Won't be surprising if Trump gloms onto the idea of telling Canada that he'll lower his threat of tariffs from 25% to 15% if they'll turn the spigot on...

Re: Exec Order to open the spigots

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 7:51 pm
by just-jim
mister_coffee wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 7:14 pm What a loon.

It has bee proposed before, and was nutso then too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Ame ... r_Alliance
Cadillac Desert by Marc Reisner (1986) talked about this, I think.
I’ve read the book twice….but need to dig my copy out and re-read, again.

It is THE seminal work on modern water policy in the west.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Desert
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Re: Exec Order to open the spigots

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 7:14 pm
by mister_coffee
What a loon.

It has been proposed before, and was nutso then too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Ame ... r_Alliance

Re: Exec Order to open the spigots

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 6:45 pm
by just-jim
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Unbelievable….

Someone has lost their grip on history, physics, geography, etc…..

What’s next? An Executive order commanding the sun to rise in the west and set in the east?

What a Fatuous arse-hat!
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Re: Exec Order to open the spigots

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 6:08 pm
by Rideback
Calif has large investments in desal plants. Apparently though Mr. Trump is not aware of that and believes that there is a spigot he can order to be turned on somewhere up in the PNW that can then magically flow down to Calif. His disconnect with reality just boggles the mind.

Re: Exec Order to open the spigots

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:51 pm
by tristanbgilb
in Naval nuclear plants, a big part was to distill salt water into fresh water. I have seen on St John US Virgin Islands desalination plants that serve the island with reverse osmosis plants. There is no water shortage where the ocean is so plentiful so full of water.

Exec Order to open the spigots

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:43 pm
by Rideback
https://bsky.app/profile/digby56.bsky.s ... macy76c72m video of his speech

yes indeed millions of gallons of water from the PNW and Canada have been flowing for millions of years and he's going to open the spigots and send it to Southern California

Trump: "I'm signing an executive order to open up the pumps and valves in the north. We want to get that water pouring down here as quickly as possible ... you're talking about unlimited water coming up from the Pacific Northwest, even coming from parts of Canada."