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Re: Health Insurers $371 Billion Windfall

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:13 pm
by just-jim
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You have to remeber - Ken is in a CULT.

Several conditions must exist for a cult to thrive.

1) It must be peopled by folks not smart enough to know they are actually in a cult, and
2) you must blindly accept all the propaganda of the cult - even as you know it to be untrue.
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Re: Health Insurers $371 Billion Windfall

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:53 am
by PAL
It's his way or the highway. He gives not one whit about all the babies and children dying in Gaza. Our government is intervening there aren't they, in still giving money and weapons to Israel so that they can continue to kill children. Oh, they deserve it because they are miniature Hamas. That is the hypocrasy. And women in the US have died because they couldn't get the care they needed. These are not lies. And women having to travel for care and not necessarily abortions. Miscarriages. Babies already dead in the womb making the woman carry it to term. That is insane.
We will rise.

Re: Health Insurers $371 Billion Windfall

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:16 am
by Rideback
Ken, your desire to dump all women into the same govt controlled basket is appalling. Even by your standards innocent women are losing their lives by the abortion standards imposed by state govts throughout the Country. Get a grip.

Re: Health Insurers $371 Billion Windfall

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 8:39 am
by dorankj
When people kill innocent other people society demands government intervene.

Re: Health Insurers $371 Billion Windfall

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 8:00 am
by Rideback
The lawyer helping Robert F. Kennedy Jr. pick health officials to serve in the upcoming Trump administration has petitioned the FDA to revoke approval of the polio vaccine (New York Times)

Re: Health Insurers $371 Billion Windfall

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:40 am
by PAL
Yeah, Ken don't tell me what to be. You say too much government and that is too much government and none of it's business.

Re: Health Insurers $371 Billion Windfall

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:05 am
by mister_coffee
Anthem just recently reversed its policy that would have limited the amount of time anesthesia was covered during surgery. After a loud public outcry. My own guess is that Upper Management took into account the recent assassination of Brain Thompson and their shoulderblades started to twitch.

Re: Health Insurers $371 Billion Windfall

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:06 am
by Rideback
Ken, the ACA opened the door for more coverage, SCOTUS also opened the door for more abuse in its ruling. Trump promised in '16 that he would replace the ACA with an Act that would remedy this problem and give better coverage than the ACA. The Rep Party under Trump's leadership did nothing to keep that promise, in fact they made it easier for the insurance companies to abuse their patients. To this day, literally, Trump still says that he only has 'concepts but no policies that he wants to implement'.

The NY shooting of the United CEO is bringing all this to light and it should be a top priority to fix. But since Trump has brought 13 billionaires into his administration the fix is already in the protect the abuse instead of fixing it.

And your crack about women is obscene and ignorant. Women are dying because of the abortion bans and so are their fetuses as well as the unborn children. Women are dying in parking lots after being refused care. Get a clue.

Re: Health Insurers $371 Billion Windfall

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:23 pm
by dorankj
Unless you want to kill another body that’s innocent! Don’t be so obtuse.

Re: Health Insurers $371 Billion Windfall

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:31 pm
by PAL
Yep, my body my choice, damned government. Hands off my body.

Re: Health Insurers $371 Billion Windfall

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:38 pm
by dorankj
So you understand why so many of us fought the ACA passage?!! I’m sure your answer will be MORE government intervention to fix all the current issues (that are CAUSED by too much government intervention!) such maroons.

Health Insurers $371 Billion Windfall

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:36 am
by Rideback
https://www.levernews.com/health-insure ... er-article

'America’s largest health insurers have raked in more than $371 billion in profits since the passage of the Affordable Care Act, according to financial data reviewed by The Lever. More than 40 percent of that net income went to UnitedHealth Group, whose annual profits have skyrocketed by nearly 400 percent as the company now reportedly denies nearly one in three medical claims from its policyholders.

Insurers garnered these profits as the average American families’ premiums have risen to nearly $26,000 a year. In all, since the Affordable Care Act (ACA) was passed in 2010, more than $9 trillion of revenue has flowed to the country’s largest health insurance companies, which include UnitedHealth Group; Cigna; Kaiser Permanente; Elevance Health, the parent company of Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield; and CVS Health, which acquired Aetna in 2018.

The financial data comes from the companies’ annual reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and other disclosure forms.

The revenue and profits substantially increased starting in 2014, when the ACA was fully implemented. The law included a mandate for Americans to buy insurance, as well as government subsidies for such insurance policies.

Last week’s murder of Brian Thompson, chief executive officer of UnitedHealth Group’s insurance division UnitedHealthcare, has sparked an outpouring of anger towards health insurers. New Gallup polling data shows Americans’ view of health care quality has declined to a 24-year low. The same data showed that 62 percent of Americans believe “it is the responsibility of the federal government to make sure all Americans have healthcare coverage” — a decade high.


These five insurers control over half of the commercial market share of the U.S. health insurance industry. Their revenues and profits have increased as they have become larger, both because of mergers and because the Affordable Care Act’s subsidies have helped Americans buy private insurance.

“High market concentration tends to lower competition among health insurers, which can harm patients by raising insurance premiums above competitive levels,” said Jesse Ehrenfeld, president of the physician lobbying group American Medical Association, in a 2023 press release.

Patients are grappling with ever-increasing health care costs. Spending on private health coverage is set to exceed $1.5 trillion this year, according to the nonpartisan U.S. Government Accountability Office. At the same time, the quality of U.S. health care is deteriorating, based on increasing mortality rates, premature deaths, disability levels, and other measures.

UnitedHealthcare, the largest U.S. insurer covering more than 50 million people, made $23 billion in profits last year, according to UnitedHealth Group’s financial statements.

As of 2023, the CEOs of the five largest health insurers made roughly $75 million dollars combined in annual compensation.

This year, the average health insurance premium that individuals pay for employer-sponsored health insurance — the largest source of health care coverage for non-elderly Americans — increased 6 percent to almost $9,000 per year, and premiums for families increased 7 percent to just under $26,000 per year, according to the health policy research nonprofit KFF. Since 2014, the average family premium cost has risen 52 percent, outpacing inflation.

Regardless of mounting insurance costs, many Americans are still forced to pay out of pocket for procedures — or go without care — thanks to insurers’ practice of denying coverage. According to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which manages federal health care programs, nearly 17 percent of in-network claims to insurers on the government’s health insurance exchange were denied in 2021.

A recent study asserted that UnitedHealthcare denies the most claims of any major health insurance company, rejecting about one in every three claims.

“UnitedHealthcare is the worst insurance company for paying claims,” concluded the study from the consumer spending analytics group, ValuePenguin, whose parent company is the online lending marketplace LendingTree.

Additionally, nearly one in every 12 Americans now has medical debt, with roughly three million people owing more than $10,000. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, an agency responsible for consumer protection in the financial sector, estimates that $88 billion worth of medical debt is reflected on individuals’ credit reports.

“When it comes to medical bills, Americans are often caught in a doom loop between their medical provider and insurance company,” Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Director Rohit Chopra said in 2022.

On Dec. 4, a masked assailant gunned down UnitedHealthcare’s CEO. Five days later, police arrested a suspect who reportedly was carrying a manifesto that criticized health insurance companies for prioritizing profits over patient care, according to reports.

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