Trump changes his mind again, NO SNAP

[mister_coffee]

It's a failing government and that's what they want.

It sure seems that way. But I suspect they have made a serious error. Unless all of them are psychopaths and/or nihilists.

[PAL]

It's a failing government and that's what they want.

[mister_coffee]

I think it is a safe bet that even with the Dems caving on the shutdown the Trump administration is going to starve people this month just on general principles.

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Surprise, the Trump admin tells the court there's no funds in the SNAP contingency fund!
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1KHVj8DKnr/

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This is how Trump treats our military families
Nellis Air Force Base, Las Vegas, military families stand in line for food

https://x.com/magacult2/status/19871969 ... M0PSmc_soA

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Apparently Trump's dementia, Kennedy's brain worms have migrated over to the USDA to inflict more pain.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... 2707910042

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Boggles the mind what Trump is doing
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medica ... ocialshare

[mister_coffee]

Historically when food insecurity goes up theft goes up, so that makes sense.

A lot of food banks depend on about-to-expire (and sometimes expired) product donated from grocery stores. That will only "help" in the very short term.

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Yes, children as well as retirees. And then there's the ripple effect where grocery stores which rely on SNAP consumers are suddenly seeing shelves filled with expired products that haven't been purchased, they can't get a handle on how to order because of the volatility of the situation and of course food banks are overrun with people in crisis. Just a guess here but I can see this rolling right into an uptick in crime, whether it's drug dealing to make ends meet or outright theft.

[mister_coffee]

I wonder if any Rs have stopped to consider how awful it looks to be denying people food aid.

Yes, yes, I am sure that some people who get SNAP benefits are not truly needy or spend that money unwisely. But in the end you are still forcing children to go hungry to prove a political point.

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Explanation why SCOTUS paused by a law professor TBW
"I forwarded the explanation from Steve Vladeck concerning the "administrative stay" that Justice Jackson issued in the SNAP case that pauses the order for a couple of days, but I thought a quick summary of what he writes would also be helpful. (See my page for the link to Steve's full post.)
The emergency appeal from the First Circuit in the SNAP lawsuit came in a weird posture. The First Circuit denied an "administrative stay" on the order to release SNAP benefits while they consider the question whether to grant a "stay pending appeal" from the district court's injunction. (I can explain the difference if that's helpful to anyone.) The latter requires a little more thought and explanation and the First Circuit said they would decide it expeditiously.
When Justice Jackson got the emergency request for an administrative stay, if she had not granted it herself then it would have gone to the full Court where she probably had reason to worry that five Justices would grant the requested relief and turn the administrative stay into some kind of indefinite pause on the release of SNAP benefits, as they've done before. So instead she seized it herself, granted the request, but granted it with a very short fuse and a highly unusual amount of detail and explanation that basically told the First Circuit: "I'm applying a very brief pause with this 'administrative stay' so you can decide the important question of the 'stay pending appeal'. Do that, do it quickly, and then I hope it will be more difficult for the conservatives on the Court to muster the support they need to deny people food while this case is going on." She didn't say the last part explicitly, of course, but I think Steve is right that that's what she was doing.
In short, she was using the tools available to her to make it more difficult for the conservatives to swoop in and delay food relief indefinitely. The cost of doing that was a couple-day delay right now."

Steve V's longer version:
https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/190-snap ... irect=true

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SCOTUS replies
https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/11/trum ... -payments/

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And now he's going to SCOTUS with an appeal to stop the lower court's order. He wants a decision by 6:30 PST Fri night.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/07/politics ... p-benefits

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Governor Ferguson statement on November SNAP benefits beginning to flow to Washington households
OLYMPIA – Governor Bob Ferguson provided the following statement after hundreds of thousands of Washingtonians began receiving their overdue food assistance benefits for November, following the latest court order requiring the U.S. Department of Agriculture to provide full funding to the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP).

On Thursday, a federal judge ordered the Trump Administration to fully fund November SNAP benefits for roughly 42 million low-income Americans, including nearly 1 million Washingtonians. Judge John J. McConnell Jr. of the U.S. District Court for the District of Rhode Island condemned the administration for ignoring his initial court order and withholding food benefits “for political reasons.” In the sharply worded decision, he wrote: “This Court is not naïve to the administration’s true motivations.”

So far, households that were scheduled to receive their monthly benefits between Nov. 1 and Nov. 7 have received 100 percent of their SNAP benefits for November. That is more than 250,000 households across Washington. At this time, the remaining beneficiaries are expected to receive the entirety of their November food assistance on the date when those funds are typically issued. However, the Trump Administration immediately asked the Court of Appeals to put the federal court’s decision on hold. The appeals decision is pending. In short, the future of these benefits remains uncertain.

In total, more than 500,000 Washington households receive SNAP benefits.

“Thanks to multiple lawsuits, and repeated court orders, hundreds of thousands of Washingtonians across our state finally have the SNAP benefits they need to put food on the table,” Governor Ferguson said. “Shockingly, this administration continues to work to withhold food assistance from those who need it most. President Trump needs to stop fighting to keep food from hungry families, and focus on re-opening the government.”

Last week, Governor Ferguson directed nearly $2.2 million to provide additional support to Washington’s food banks in the wake of the Congressional Republicans’ government shutdown. The directive aimed to provide weekly relief if SNAP funds were not restored. The initial $2.2 million in state funds have already been granted to 41 regional agencies through the Emergency Food Assistance Program. These regional and tribal agencies are working directly with 470 food distribution sites to meet local needs right away.

Attorney General Nick Brown filed a lawsuit against the USDA in Massachusetts, arguing the suspension of SNAP was unlawful. The judge in that case, as well as Judge McConnell Jr. of Rhode Island, issued orders last week finding that USDA must use contingency funds to pay November SNAP benefits. The Rhode Island judge went further yesterday by ordering USDA to make full payments of November SNAP benefits by today using contingency funds and other funds.

Rural Washington is particularly reliant on federal SNAP benefits. In Yakima County, for example, 28 percent of residents rely on SNAP — the highest percentage of any county statewide.

While November benefits have begun flowing, the delays in food assistance have already put a strain on Washington food banks and pantries. These community resources are also facing historic demand in the midst of rising food costs. Individuals should expect longer than usual wait times and limited resources.

Individuals looking for help, or to donate, should reach out to their local food bank. More help locating food resources is available on the Washington Department of Agriculture’s website, or by calling 360-725-5640. You can also call 211, or visit Washington 211’s website, for help locating additional resources.

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Trump, of course, is appealing this ruling as well as the others
https://www.tmj4.com/politics/the-presi ... r-november

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RI Judge rules that Trump admin defied his court's order to pay SNAP benefits for Nov in full by yesterday (11/5)
https://aaronparnas.substack.com/p/brea ... dium=email

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Another 'mathing' error:
"(Bloomberg) -- The Trump administration said that based on “further calculations” it has determined it can provide recipients of low-income food assistance about two-thirds of their usual benefits this month, not the 50% it earlier pledged.

Officials at the Department of Agriculture, which administers the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, realized the “error” in their earlier calculations and “worked to issue new guidance and tables as soon as it was discovered,” lawyers for the Department of Justice said in court filings late Wednesday."

[PAL]

We have no legitimate leader, hence perhaps no legitimate government right now. No congress, but even Marjorie Taylor Green is upset. You know it's bad when she starts voicing conerns that side with compassion.
An end will come.

[SharonLaVonne]

Is there anyone nastier and meaner than Trump? Not in my mind. Prison is the onely place he belongs. I do not understand Christian and Republican support of this vile and inhumane man.

Vote like you actually care about others.

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Despite promises from his administration that it would comply with the 2 court orders, despite the WH spokesperson expressing that the admin would pay half the monies, now Trump is posting on Truth Social that as long as the shutdown continues he will defy the court orders and not fulfill his obligation.
https://aaronparnas.substack.com/p/brea ... dium=email