Discussions from political cartoon thread...

[PAL]

Newhouse has had credible death threats. Ask people that have talked to him directly. FBI has told him not to have town hall meetings.
So, I would think many members of Congress have had threats. Murkowski came right out and said she was scared.
But I agree David, and these Congress people, with their salaries and investments really could afford body guards and maybe they do have some security.
JD on a short leash or no reason to have him on a leash. 8647 VP.

[mister_coffee]

I would argue that Romney and Murkowski, by not standing up, denouncing, and fighting back against MAGA are actually enabling evil.

There is some indication that they fear for their personal safety if they did so. That's probably true. But trying to play both sides of it like they are doing is unlikely to save them or their families in the end. Sometimes it is better to die on your feet than live on your knees. Although that's easy for me to say as right-wing kooks aren't threatening to kill me or my family. Currently.

My opinion is that the first American Republic is dead. The only remote possibility that might save it now is if enough Republicans in the House and Senate switched sides and caucused with the Democrats. Then immediately impeached Trump and convicted him and removed him from office. And used their veto-proof majority to pass a package of laws that would make a future Trump impossible and keep JD Vance on a very short leash. I said "remote" possibility but in practice I think pigs will be flying if all that ever happens.

[just-jim]

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Honorable Republicans abound, certainly! I like Liz Cheney OK, and Romney. And what is not to like/honor about Eisenhower?

I liked John McCain…voted for him because I thought Obama lacked some ‘managerial/executive’ expertise (..’tho, later, I thought Obama did a Great Job!)

…and …sigh…I even voted for Bush Jr. in 2000 because I thought Al Gore was a fatuous gasbag. I kinda regret that one. Although…in any case, I would respect Bush Jr for his many decades of public service!

Whether R or D - respect for those, and others, is warranted. What is NOT warranted is the current crop of R ideologues!
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[pasayten]

Doesn't hold any office now, but I sure liked Liz Cheney... Also Mitt Romney who never bought into the MAGA kool-aid

[mister_coffee]

Query: do any "Good" Republicans hold elective office?

It seems to me that all Republican elected officials seem to either be 100 percent on board with this loudly and publicly or are keeping their heads down. Nobody seems to have the ability to stand up and say this second Trump administration is both evil and badly wrong.

[just-jim]

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I would whole-heartedly agree with you, Ray!
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[pasayten]

8647... Nothing wrong with wanting to dump the trash.


I don't agree with Jim's Republican analysis as a whole as it only applies to the CURRENT Republicans in power that have drank the MAGA kool-aide. There are many good Republicans, Christian and others, waiting for the restoration of the party once the trash is thrown out.

[PAL]

Did Jesus hate? He would forgive #47 despite his many trangressions, too numerous to list. Ah but I do have to list one. They want to "erase" the history of Jan. 6th. They don't want to put up a plaque at the White House honoring the policemen that risked their lives that day.

[dorankj]

Not until you admit the last one! Jesus REALLY hated the den of vipers and hypocrites who portrayed virtuousness. RAY

[dorankj]

See, hypocrite!

[PAL]

OK.

[dorankj]

I have never seen you tell others to be less harsh or quit the name calling and or personal attacks, it's funny how you only ever see it one way? And even when I respond to you respectfully and only use arguments or justification and avoid any name calling or personal invective you either ignore those or skip all that and focus only on previous 'wrongs'. Can't you see how this is perceived by me and maybe consider how you handle this back and forth and possibly modify your choices if you want different responses from me? Often I have to reply to several of you here attacking me at once (maybe with slightly different methods or words) and I mash all my replies into one response. So maybe you personalize my harshness as only being directed at you.

[dorankj]

That's a paraphrase of Jim.

[PAL]

"makes me look like the asshole I truly am"? Do you believe that about yourself? Because that what the sentence says.
You assume far too much about what I or anyone else thinks about their neighbors or community. Come talk to the protesters, of which there were almost 300 in a couple of them. So all of those protesters probably don't agree with you. No one at the protest talks to others like you do on here. There are some Trump supporters there and we are civil to them and they to us. Of course, they are boys, but we do not threaten them. They have every right to be there. When I say hi, they say hi back.
Once again, how can true dialog occur when you start, and you do start it, calling people names. Stop with the name calling, ok? It comes off as hostle.
Do I call you dumba? Do I call you any names? I disagree with you about alot of things. That's the way it is.

[dorankj]

Typical eleatist/democrat responses, no self reflection or acknowledgement of previous poor choices or acceptance of obvious now known truths! You jump to 'why are you even here' or maybe you should just leave and of course Jim can be counted on with 'i hate you Ken, and never point out what I say that seems true but makes me look like the asshole i truly am'.

I'm here because like it or not I'm a member of this community and care about it's future and people here. I wish you guys would understand that your choices can affect everyone and haven't always been the best or worked out like you said. I wish you wouldn't hate and despise and disparage your neighbors, community members and just people who vote different, have different views and takes about history and the truths we derive from that history. I wish true dialog and understanding would occur here, that maybe if you treat others poorly that you'll get that in return so consider more carefully how you truly treat others and maybe fully embrace the golden rule to treat others how you wish to be treated and if you don't like how i or certain people here engage you that you first ask yourself how you have engaged them? Or how what you promote or have voted for affects them and their life?

[PAL]

Ken what are you doing on here if you can't stand us? Again, Biden is under your skin. It sounds like it is driving you crazy. And with that, adieu.

[just-jim]

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Do NOT presume to speak for me, or tell me what I might think, ken. You aren’t smart enough.

The only dumba** is here is you.

This whole thread is about political CARTOONS and the most recent posts have been about the narcissistic, FELON, drug-addled, Pee-Pants persditnet we are temporarily stuck with, and his possible removal. Bringing up the recent discovery of Biden’s condition is what-about-ism on your part.

MC and others are right, though….interacting with you is pretty pointless.
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[dorankj]

No, no, no! Whataboutism.

[Rideback]

George Conway:
"Just listened to the Hur interview tape with Biden and I'm utterly appalled at all the incoherent and crazy things Biden said about the Revolutionary War airports, injecting bleach, people eating cats and dogs, Hannibal Lecter and Arnold Palmer's penis. Simply unbelievable that he ran for present again."

[dorankj]

So you're telling me (and everyone) that the former FBI director who was fired by Trump and hates him thought he was posting 'remove the restaurant special (47)'? Jim is going to call you all the biggest dumbasses ever! That is the most ridiculous 'justification', one you would NEVER accept from me for anything similar. I repeat you are the biggest, hypocritical liars here! And absolutely im calling you all out about Biden, he had cancer his whole presidency but you said he was fine could totally do another term and I was the one being lied to by my news sources! It matters that our president was cognitively and physically a sh** show but you all attacked anyone who pointed it out and called bull***! Now you double down and say it doesn't matter because 'nothing happened' all the while screaming Trump is impaired, physically a mess etc.? No way, such utter bull***.

[PAL]

You are right.

[mister_coffee]

This is exactly what I mean when I say Ken is participating in this community in bad faith.

No one believes "86" means assassination. No one. That is one hundred percent made up. Only people who are too stupid to breathe would not know that. Ken is not too stupid to keep breathing without assistance.

Arguing with him and engaging him just enables him and gives his "views" some kind of legitimacy.

I in no way am arguing that he should be censored. That just gives him a platform. But our lives and our community would be better off if we paid him no attention.

[PAL]

Oh for crying out loud. Have you ever worked in a restaurant Ken? I heard this phrase all the time. The chef would yell out, 86 the special. Meant we were out of the item.
Yes, it was also done to Biden. 8646.
Right, now the Foxie News channel is so dwelling on Biden and the conspiracies theories regarding if he already had the cancer, etc. Who cares? It didn't happen, yet the righties continually go on and on about Biden-who is not president! This is just a distraction to what is really happening. Biden is under your skin Ken, ha ha.
8647 does not equal assassination. Right, the chef would say, assassinate the special. Oh gawd.

[Rideback]

Trump used the term '86' all the time talking about Biden. '86' is commonly known as the toss out the garbage reference. No one except the tribe that wants to distract would even think of this. 8647.
"The historical context of "86" primarily revolves around its slang usage, particularly in the hospitality industry. The term "86" originated in the 1930s as a way to indicate that an item was no longer available, often at soda fountains or bars. Over time, it expanded to mean "to throw out," "to get rid of," or "to refuse service". While 1986 was also a year of significant events, including the Challenger explosion and the Chernobyl disaster, the core historical significance of "86" lies in its evolution as a slang term.
Here's a more detailed look:
Origin in Hospitality:
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The term "86" likely originated in the 1930s as a way for staff to communicate that a particular item was sold out, often at soda counters or bars.
Expansion of Meaning:
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The meaning of "86" evolved to include the idea of refusing service, typically to a customer who was deemed overserved or disruptive.
Other Theories:
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There are various theories about the origin of the term, including its possible connection to the F-86 Sabre jet during the Korean War, or the soup kitchens of the Great Depression.
1986 as a Year:
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While "86" is primarily known for its slang meaning, the year 1986 was a significant year in history, marked by events like the Challenger explosion, the Chernobyl disaster, and the International Year of Peace.

[dorankj]

So now we just outright call for assassination of our duly elected president? You guys would have gone apeshit if I or others had done that with Biden, Obama or Hillary! And at the same moment it's literally PROVEN the lies about Biden, impossible this 'new' advanced cancer just showed up in 100 or even 300 days! But "fox news sucks" Republicans and Trump supporters only lie everything is in chaos now but before everything was great? Such utter ridiculous hypocritical liars you are!