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Been there... Done that in real life... LOL...Rideback wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:27 pm For some reason Ray, I'm reminded of this description from AI
'As with tail docking, there are a number of techniques that can be used to castrate ram lambs and buck kids. An elastrator band can be placed around the neck of the scrotum, with care taken not to place the band over the rudimentary teats. The scrotum will shrivel up and fall off in two to three weeks.'
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For some reason Ray, I'm reminded of this description from AI
'As with tail docking, there are a number of techniques that can be used to castrate ram lambs and buck kids. An elastrator band can be placed around the neck of the scrotum, with care taken not to place the band over the rudimentary teats. The scrotum will shrivel up and fall off in two to three weeks.'
'As with tail docking, there are a number of techniques that can be used to castrate ram lambs and buck kids. An elastrator band can be placed around the neck of the scrotum, with care taken not to place the band over the rudimentary teats. The scrotum will shrivel up and fall off in two to three weeks.'
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Now here is a wild story... Copied off Gary Ott’s thread where he shared it..
Fear and Loathing: Closer to the Edge
There is something rancid in America, a slow, creeping rot that smells like cold McDonald’s fries, aerosol hairspray, and the unmistakable musk of a country too sedated to recognize its own hostage situation. For years, the idea that Donald Trump was compromised by Russia was dismissed as paranoid fantasy—just another wild-eyed conspiracy theory, another overblown headline in the endless saga of American political dysfunction.
But now, two former Soviet intelligence officers—Alnur Mussayev and Yuri Shvets—are saying it outright: Trump was recruited by the KGB in 1987, groomed as an asset, and remains under Russian control to this day.
And the worst part? He’s already back in the White House.
That’s right, America. You did it. You walked face-first into the banana peel of history, slipped, and fell straight into the arms of Vladimir Putin. Trump was kicked out in 2020, spent four years plotting his comeback, and now he’s returned, like a bloated, orange cockroach that just won’t die. The Kremlin’s favorite stooge is running the country again, and this time, he knows exactly how to stay in power.
If you think this is just another round of the Trump Show, you’re not paying attention. This isn’t politics anymore. This is treason. This is foreign subversion. This is a goddamn coup in slow motion.
Let’s break it down, nice and simple.
Alnur Mussayev isn’t some Twitter conspiracy theorist with a tinfoil hat and a podcast. He’s the former head of Kazakhstan’s National Security Committee, which means he knows exactly how Russian intelligence works—because he was part of the system. And what he’s saying should make every American’s blood run cold.
According to Mussayev, Trump was identified, recruited, and compromised by the KGB in 1987 during his first trip to Moscow. They saw him for what he was: a narcissistic, greedy, attention-starved buffoon who could be easily manipulated. The KGB flattered him, promised him business deals, and planted the seeds of political ambition in his empty little head. And from that moment on, he was their man.
But Mussayev isn’t alone. Former KGB major Yuri Shvets said the exact same thing in 2021: Trump was cultivated by Soviet intelligence because he was an easy mark—too stupid to realize he was being played, too egotistical to care. They saw him as a useful idiot—a man who could one day be nudged into power, a walking, talking Trojan Horse for Russian interests.
And now? The plan has worked. Trump spent four years in office weakening America from within, got booted out, and now he’s back for round two.
If you had told the American public in 1962 that a Soviet-backed asset would one day sit in the White House, they would have burned Washington to the ground before letting it happen. But today? Nobody seems to care.
The media treats this like just another wacky subplot in the never-ending Trump reality show. Congress is too busy fighting over meaningless culture war nonsense to do anything about it. And the American public? Exhausted. Numb. Checked out. Years of scandals—Russia collusion, Ukraine blackmail, classified documents, tax fraud, sexual assault, an attempted coup—have fried the country’s brain like an overcooked steak at Mar-a-Lago.
Trump has done the impossible. He has committed so many crimes, so openly, so brazenly, that none of them matter anymore.
And now, with Mussayev’s revelation that Trump is an active foreign asset, we have finally reached the point where the biggest political scandal in American history is met with a collective shrug.
This is how democracy dies—not with a bang, but with a goddamn eye-roll.
This is the part where the skeptics start clutching their pearls. “Oh, come on,” they say. “If Trump were really a Russian asset, wouldn’t there be more proof?”
To which I say: Are you blind, or just willfully stupid?
Let’s go through the evidence, shall we?
Trump spent his entire first term doing exactly what Russia wanted. He attacked NATO, calling it “obsolete” and threatening to pull the U.S. out. He tried to blackmail Ukraine into manufacturing dirt on Joe Biden, because weakening Ukraine helps one man and one man only: Vladimir Putin. He pulled U.S. troops out of Syria, handing power over to Russian forces. He picked fights with Canada and Europe while cozying up to dictators.
Even now, in his second term, he is more openly pro-Putin than ever. He has made it clear that he will not protect NATO allies from Russian aggression. He is actively dismantling America’s alliances, just as Russia planned. And while Americans scream at each other over whether Target should sell rainbow t-shirts, Trump is quietly selling the country to the Kremlin.
At some point, you have to stop calling it a coincidence and start calling it what it is: treason.
The United States is running out of time. If Trump serves out this term without being removed, America as a functioning democracy is finished.
The media needs to wake up. Enough with the “Trump fatigue” excuse. This is not just another scandal—this is the single greatest infiltration of American power in history. Journalists need to dig into Mussayev’s claims, demand declassification of intelligence files, and treat this like the national emergency that it is.
Congress needs to subpoena Mussayev immediately. His testimony must be public, and every document he has should be reviewed. If there is proof that Trump has been compromised since the 1980s, the American people need to know.
The Justice Department needs to stop pretending that Trump is just another politician. If there is evidence that the sitting president of the United States is working in Russia’s interests, he must be removed from office and prosecuted for espionage.
And the American public? You have one last chance. This is not about Republican vs. Democrat. This is not about taxes, gas prices, or whatever nonsense outrage is dominating the news today. This is about whether the United States remains a sovereign nation, or if we spend the rest of the century as a Russian client state with a golf course.
The sheer volume of Trump's corruption, the blatant nature of his crimes, the mountain of evidence that should have ended his political career a hundred times over—none of it mattered. He survived it all, not because he was innocent, but because he drowned the country in so much scandal that nothing stuck.
But this time, it’s different. If Mussayev and Shvets are right, this isn’t just another chapter in the endless Trump circus. This is the culmination of a decades-long Russian intelligence operation to install an asset in the White House.
There is no coming back from this. If America lets Trump serve out this term without removing him, then the United States as a democratic republic is finished. The country won’t collapse overnight. There won’t be tanks in the streets. Instead, the destruction of democracy will happen in slow motion—buried under lawsuits, propaganda, and corruption so blatant that people stop caring.
If America lets this happen—if Trump is allowed to complete his mission—then Putin wins. The West crumbles. And the people who could have stopped it will look back, years from now, and wonder how they let it happen.
Good night, and good luck. Because if people don’t wake up, America is going to sleepwalk straight into its own funeral.
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I prayed and contemplated about abortion. It is a symptom of an American illness and not really the cause. I don't think it would make sense to punish a woman further than being without her baby that she just murdered. It's a guilt no one should have to live with.PAL wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:34 am Ok, by that logic, men that help women get pregnant, that have an abortion, should also be sterilized.
That's pretty kind of you considering some people want women put to death or put in jail.
I think life begins before conception. Killing fetuses is indeed evil. Friends have told me the fetuses are collected for the Chinese rulers to eat for dinner.
I was told Russia wants Ukraine for the minerals buried in their soil. It seems they are too rich for their own good. My thoughts are we should never have gotten involved, and the war would be over already if we hadn't. So with that behind us, we are in this situation of feeding this war causing so much hatred that there may be in fact no recovery for decades.
I think they need to get some THC in their blood and peace pipe and chill out. I had Peace Pipe with cannabis with the chief of the Colville tribe some time ago. He explained to me that fentanyl is destroying his people. It's a world war at this point. The drug war is a total failure. I raise the question how to we end these wars that a few are profiting from the death and torture of the those vulnerable. I think the first step is to give allow people plant freedoms and I think it will help. What if Putin and Ukraine dictator and trump and me, Jah Rasta, peace pipe and begin healing the wounds these nations have from injustice and repression.
I am not really a hippy but I have learned much from them. Pot peace pipe may in fact help gain trust and understanding between people and nations. Imagine watching trump getting stoned on TV and reaching for world peace and praying to end all war.
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https://snyder.substack.com/p/recoup-the-costs
"The premise of American foreign policy to Ukraine, today, is one of grievance. As the American president, vice-president, and national security advisor constantly repeat, Ukraine, the victim of a large-scale and criminal Russian invasion, must "recoup the costs" to the US taxpayer for aid received under the Biden administration.
It is worth patiently considering this proposition. It reveals little about Ukraine, but much about America in February 2025.
1. The American demand is of an extraordinary scale. In Kyiv and again in Munich, the Americans proposed that Ukraine concede half of the profits from its mineral rights in perpetuity and from other national resources and from its ports in perpetuity with a lien on everything important -- in exchange for essentially nothing. This is not really a monetary proposition, let alone a "deal," but rather the demand that Ukraine become a permanent American colony. It amounts to blackmail enabled by ongoing Russian invasion. In effect, the United States is telling Ukraine to concede its resources to the United States, under the threat that American aid will be otherwise withdrawn, and those resources will be taken by Russia.
2. Ukraine is currently under attack by the Russian Federation, which invaded its south and southeast in 2014 and then began a full-scale invasion in 2022. For three years, Ukraine has resisted the largest offensive in contemporary history. The American demands amount to extremely severe war reparations upon Ukraine, far more severe than was demanded (for example) of Germany after either world war. But this demand is directed against Ukraine, and Ukraine is not the aggressor. Russia is the aggressor. Ukraine is the victim. Until now, the discussion in the United States and elsewhere was the reparations that Russia, as the aggressor state, should pay. That would be the historically normal discussion. It would also be the strategically normal discussion, in that it raises the costs of war to the current aggressor and to future aggressors.
3. The demand that Ukraine pay a huge sum to the United States is contrary to any logic of ending the war. For the war to come to an end, the aggressor, Russia, must be weakened and the defender, Ukraine, must be strengthened. If the United States were to demand the heart of Ukraine's economy in the middle of the war, the opposite would be achieved. Ukraine would be weakened and Russia would be strengthened. This escalates and lengthens the current war, and makes a wider war more likely.
4. Even if we consider the American demand in terms other than as colonialism, reversed war reparations, or warmongering pro-Russian intervention, even if we regard it on its own terms as a repayment of American aid, this would be contrary to usual practice. When one country chooses to aid another country, it is understood that this has its basis in the interests of the first country. In any event, one cannot provide aid and then later claim that it is a loan that has to be paid back.
5. The price that the Americans use to characterize what is owed them -- $500 billion -- is both too low and too high. It is far less than the value of the perpetual claim to Ukrainian resources that they are making right now. And it is far more than the United States has given Ukraine. The US has committed, over three years, about $66 billion in humanitarian aid and about $119 billion in military aid. That second figure has to be examined a bit critically. Most of that money stayed in the United States, financing American factories in America and paying American workers. The rest of it was usually not money at all, but weapons, to which were assigned a dollar amount for accounting purposes. Most of the weapons that were actually sent to Ukraine were obsolescing and would never have been used by the United States in a conflict. Instead, they would have been dismantled and thrown away, at cost to the United States taxpayer. Even if we take the American official price tag, we are looking at $185 billion, not $500 billion. And the true figure would probably be closer to a total $100 billion, spread over three years.
6. It is important to keep these numbers in perspective. $185 billion or $100 billion is a lot of money. But over the course of three years of the largest war fought since 1945, it is not a huge sum. It is far less than the Ukrainians have paid themselves. It is markedly less than the Europeans have granted to Ukraine (and they, of course, are not now demanding that it be paid back). It amounts to about a nickel on the defense department dollar. (And it is, by far, the highest-performing nickel on the defense department dollar). It is about a penny on the US budget dollar. The costs to the United States of the Iraq War were at least twenty times higher. The amount of US aid to Ukraine, a country of forty million people fighting alone the largest war since 1945, is less than half of the personal wealth of a single US taxpayer, Elon Musk. In fact, the increase to Musk's wealth since Trump was elected president three months ago is greater than all of the American aid given to Ukraine over the last three years. Musk could personally pay an annual share of US aid to Ukraine and still be the richest man in the world. As these various comparisons suggest, the United States is a huge economy with a huge governmental budget. We can be generous and make a decisive positive difference in world history at a cost that we do not even notice.
7. It was reasonable of the Biden administration and of Democrats and Republicans in Congress these last three years to believe that aid to Ukraine served American interests, no matter how narrowly these interests might be construed. No American soldiers have fought in a war of this scale against an enemy of this kind. Ukrainians have taught Americans a great deal about how modern warfare is fought. And Ukrainians have used American weapons systems to greater and different purposes than their original design. Rather than sitting on shelves in US warehouses and the being thrown away, these weapons systems have undergone an audit on the battlefield, generating extremely valuable information for Americans. Ukrainians have also developed their own weapons systems, items that do not exist in the United States, but which in future (assuming Ukrainian victory and an alliance with the United States) would be shared. In even the narrowest military terms, the investment in Ukraine more than recouped its costs.
8. The security and economic gains for the US from its investment in Ukraine, however, were far broader. Ukraine kept the conflict local, thereby preventing global economic instability and financial losses that would have been incalculably greater than the sums discussed here. Ukrainian resistance to Russia, coming as it did at the end of the covid era, was one of the preconditions for global economic recovery. The Ukrainians have essentially fulfilled the entire NATO mission, absorbing the force of the entire Russian army on their own, and sparing others, including the United States, the far greater costs of a larger war. By holding off Russia, the Ukrainians have also deterred Chinese aggression in the Pacific, by demonstrating just how costly and difficult offensive operations can be. Until 2022, that was the most feared scenario for a global war, the costs of which, in human and financial terms, would have been orders of magnitude greater than US aid to Ukraine. Should the United States continue its policy of weakening Ukraine and strengthening Russia, all of those costs, stupendously greater than the costs of aid to Ukraine, will have to be paid by Americans.
9. It is morally grotesque, during this war, to put imagined American grievances first. The American taxpayer has helped Ukraine tremendously, and has every reason to be proud. A very modest amount of aid has changed the history of the world. Americans have every right to be proud of the humanitarian aid that has allowed Ukrainians to live to and to rebuild, and to be proud of the performance of their weapons systems and of the significant difference that they have made in this war. Ukrainians are grateful, and their officials always make public acknowledgements of the value of U.S. assistance; in Ukraine itself civilians applaud when they catch sight of what they think is a US system. But the costs of this for Americans has been only financial, and that cost has been recouped already a thousand times in economic stability and national security. The costs of the war to Ukrainians, however, are of a completely different nature. They have lost tens of thousands of children, kidnapped by Russia. Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers have been injured. Tens of thousands have been killed. People under occupation suffer mass torture. Cities have been totally destroyed. And yet, at the same time, Ukrainians rebuild. And they fight, as best they can, against odds thought to be impossible. Ukrainians rebuild, as I have seen for myself in five trips to the country since the full-scale invade began. They take responsibility during an impossible situation. For this they deserve our respect and our support.
10. This whole business of "costs," I fear, is a carefully designed information operation. It is a fact widely known and exploited that Donald Trump has a personal fear of being "ripped off." This known vulnerability is visible when he speaks about Ukraine with a sense of personal grievance or with other high emotion. This weakness is, one must fear, exploited by Putin and others who wish to direct American policy. Unfortunately, in an oligarchical system in which emotions can have a decisive effect on policy, this approach has been very effective. It is possible that Trump has also been convinced, in some larger sense, that Ukraine is simply a vulnerable colonial territory that can be carved up, as in the redivision of a plot of property in a real estate transaction. The attempt to run the world this way, though it may appeal to Trump's personal worldview, will lead to much less American power overall. Should it lead to Russian victory in Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine, this will be a moment of historical weakness indelibly attached to Trump and others pursuing the current policy of wartime sadism against a loyal and important ally."
"The premise of American foreign policy to Ukraine, today, is one of grievance. As the American president, vice-president, and national security advisor constantly repeat, Ukraine, the victim of a large-scale and criminal Russian invasion, must "recoup the costs" to the US taxpayer for aid received under the Biden administration.
It is worth patiently considering this proposition. It reveals little about Ukraine, but much about America in February 2025.
1. The American demand is of an extraordinary scale. In Kyiv and again in Munich, the Americans proposed that Ukraine concede half of the profits from its mineral rights in perpetuity and from other national resources and from its ports in perpetuity with a lien on everything important -- in exchange for essentially nothing. This is not really a monetary proposition, let alone a "deal," but rather the demand that Ukraine become a permanent American colony. It amounts to blackmail enabled by ongoing Russian invasion. In effect, the United States is telling Ukraine to concede its resources to the United States, under the threat that American aid will be otherwise withdrawn, and those resources will be taken by Russia.
2. Ukraine is currently under attack by the Russian Federation, which invaded its south and southeast in 2014 and then began a full-scale invasion in 2022. For three years, Ukraine has resisted the largest offensive in contemporary history. The American demands amount to extremely severe war reparations upon Ukraine, far more severe than was demanded (for example) of Germany after either world war. But this demand is directed against Ukraine, and Ukraine is not the aggressor. Russia is the aggressor. Ukraine is the victim. Until now, the discussion in the United States and elsewhere was the reparations that Russia, as the aggressor state, should pay. That would be the historically normal discussion. It would also be the strategically normal discussion, in that it raises the costs of war to the current aggressor and to future aggressors.
3. The demand that Ukraine pay a huge sum to the United States is contrary to any logic of ending the war. For the war to come to an end, the aggressor, Russia, must be weakened and the defender, Ukraine, must be strengthened. If the United States were to demand the heart of Ukraine's economy in the middle of the war, the opposite would be achieved. Ukraine would be weakened and Russia would be strengthened. This escalates and lengthens the current war, and makes a wider war more likely.
4. Even if we consider the American demand in terms other than as colonialism, reversed war reparations, or warmongering pro-Russian intervention, even if we regard it on its own terms as a repayment of American aid, this would be contrary to usual practice. When one country chooses to aid another country, it is understood that this has its basis in the interests of the first country. In any event, one cannot provide aid and then later claim that it is a loan that has to be paid back.
5. The price that the Americans use to characterize what is owed them -- $500 billion -- is both too low and too high. It is far less than the value of the perpetual claim to Ukrainian resources that they are making right now. And it is far more than the United States has given Ukraine. The US has committed, over three years, about $66 billion in humanitarian aid and about $119 billion in military aid. That second figure has to be examined a bit critically. Most of that money stayed in the United States, financing American factories in America and paying American workers. The rest of it was usually not money at all, but weapons, to which were assigned a dollar amount for accounting purposes. Most of the weapons that were actually sent to Ukraine were obsolescing and would never have been used by the United States in a conflict. Instead, they would have been dismantled and thrown away, at cost to the United States taxpayer. Even if we take the American official price tag, we are looking at $185 billion, not $500 billion. And the true figure would probably be closer to a total $100 billion, spread over three years.
6. It is important to keep these numbers in perspective. $185 billion or $100 billion is a lot of money. But over the course of three years of the largest war fought since 1945, it is not a huge sum. It is far less than the Ukrainians have paid themselves. It is markedly less than the Europeans have granted to Ukraine (and they, of course, are not now demanding that it be paid back). It amounts to about a nickel on the defense department dollar. (And it is, by far, the highest-performing nickel on the defense department dollar). It is about a penny on the US budget dollar. The costs to the United States of the Iraq War were at least twenty times higher. The amount of US aid to Ukraine, a country of forty million people fighting alone the largest war since 1945, is less than half of the personal wealth of a single US taxpayer, Elon Musk. In fact, the increase to Musk's wealth since Trump was elected president three months ago is greater than all of the American aid given to Ukraine over the last three years. Musk could personally pay an annual share of US aid to Ukraine and still be the richest man in the world. As these various comparisons suggest, the United States is a huge economy with a huge governmental budget. We can be generous and make a decisive positive difference in world history at a cost that we do not even notice.
7. It was reasonable of the Biden administration and of Democrats and Republicans in Congress these last three years to believe that aid to Ukraine served American interests, no matter how narrowly these interests might be construed. No American soldiers have fought in a war of this scale against an enemy of this kind. Ukrainians have taught Americans a great deal about how modern warfare is fought. And Ukrainians have used American weapons systems to greater and different purposes than their original design. Rather than sitting on shelves in US warehouses and the being thrown away, these weapons systems have undergone an audit on the battlefield, generating extremely valuable information for Americans. Ukrainians have also developed their own weapons systems, items that do not exist in the United States, but which in future (assuming Ukrainian victory and an alliance with the United States) would be shared. In even the narrowest military terms, the investment in Ukraine more than recouped its costs.
8. The security and economic gains for the US from its investment in Ukraine, however, were far broader. Ukraine kept the conflict local, thereby preventing global economic instability and financial losses that would have been incalculably greater than the sums discussed here. Ukrainian resistance to Russia, coming as it did at the end of the covid era, was one of the preconditions for global economic recovery. The Ukrainians have essentially fulfilled the entire NATO mission, absorbing the force of the entire Russian army on their own, and sparing others, including the United States, the far greater costs of a larger war. By holding off Russia, the Ukrainians have also deterred Chinese aggression in the Pacific, by demonstrating just how costly and difficult offensive operations can be. Until 2022, that was the most feared scenario for a global war, the costs of which, in human and financial terms, would have been orders of magnitude greater than US aid to Ukraine. Should the United States continue its policy of weakening Ukraine and strengthening Russia, all of those costs, stupendously greater than the costs of aid to Ukraine, will have to be paid by Americans.
9. It is morally grotesque, during this war, to put imagined American grievances first. The American taxpayer has helped Ukraine tremendously, and has every reason to be proud. A very modest amount of aid has changed the history of the world. Americans have every right to be proud of the humanitarian aid that has allowed Ukrainians to live to and to rebuild, and to be proud of the performance of their weapons systems and of the significant difference that they have made in this war. Ukrainians are grateful, and their officials always make public acknowledgements of the value of U.S. assistance; in Ukraine itself civilians applaud when they catch sight of what they think is a US system. But the costs of this for Americans has been only financial, and that cost has been recouped already a thousand times in economic stability and national security. The costs of the war to Ukrainians, however, are of a completely different nature. They have lost tens of thousands of children, kidnapped by Russia. Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers have been injured. Tens of thousands have been killed. People under occupation suffer mass torture. Cities have been totally destroyed. And yet, at the same time, Ukrainians rebuild. And they fight, as best they can, against odds thought to be impossible. Ukrainians rebuild, as I have seen for myself in five trips to the country since the full-scale invade began. They take responsibility during an impossible situation. For this they deserve our respect and our support.
10. This whole business of "costs," I fear, is a carefully designed information operation. It is a fact widely known and exploited that Donald Trump has a personal fear of being "ripped off." This known vulnerability is visible when he speaks about Ukraine with a sense of personal grievance or with other high emotion. This weakness is, one must fear, exploited by Putin and others who wish to direct American policy. Unfortunately, in an oligarchical system in which emotions can have a decisive effect on policy, this approach has been very effective. It is possible that Trump has also been convinced, in some larger sense, that Ukraine is simply a vulnerable colonial territory that can be carved up, as in the redivision of a plot of property in a real estate transaction. The attempt to run the world this way, though it may appeal to Trump's personal worldview, will lead to much less American power overall. Should it lead to Russian victory in Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine, this will be a moment of historical weakness indelibly attached to Trump and others pursuing the current policy of wartime sadism against a loyal and important ally."
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Who exactly watches TV anymore?tristanbgilb wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:33 am I suspect tv has gotten awful enough to be triggering stress disorders.
Rates of anxiety and depression amongst young men and young women are very high. And those are the least likely people to be actively watching old-style TV.
So while I also suspect that we are in the midst of a mental health apocalypse, I do not have a theory about the cause and also am doubtful about any solutions without understanding why it is happening. Whatever is happening seems to be an international phenomenon that is most pronounce in advanced countries, although some not-so-advanced countries seem to also be suffering from it as well.
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I can see why it would appear I am way off topic. However, this is the post I was responding to. I am responding to the thought that there has to be a way to prevent the atrocity of war. I am not against abortion. There are many drug addicted babies that grow so deranged that it could be better just to erase them from the planet before being born.PAL wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:43 pm ...Yes, war is evil. It's been going on for millennium. How can it be stopped? Is it the nature of humans, not all humans, however. Rhetorical questions.
I dated this lady that had kids and was on welfare. The government paid her to have birth control inserted into her arm to deter her from having more children to be raised at government expense.
I have known ladies that have abortions and end up being good mamas later.
I am brainstorming how to end the wars of humanity. The world is mad with this killing game.
It's my suspicion that cannabis treats PTSD. I would really like to see how THC pills will act with stress disorders in a medical study.
I will stick to my guns that the end to the world war on plants that were created by no human are legal in all ways even though they could be used illegally. Farming is legal for all plants. It's our duty.
We could have real Coca-Cola with a kick for those that need it.
We as a nation must realize the government intrusion into legislating farming of plants illegal is the same evil government who enslaved the African and decimated native tribes on this continent.
I think our government is guilty and needs to be under the surgery to remove the cancer within.
Now back to the topic of the post.
Ukraine's dictator and Putin the dictator are horrible humans.
If we as the people of nation can't be decent and not demand cannabis medications to be bought by prescription then we are no better that anyone else. Instead we are spreading our poison across the world. With hopes, Trump gives us a quite different approach to repairing our nation and world with less government socialism.
Trump gives us hope of a better life by not sticking with the same dead end approaches that previous administrations have perverted into a dismal future.
Just hope is better than hopelessness for mental health.
Putin doesn't like marijuana. I don't know about Ukraine drug laws or if they are in anarchy.
I think Donald J Trump hasn't the political capacity to tease voters with cannabis reform while dangling the carrot for power while discriminating against those with PTSD.
We need help with stress disorders in our nation and around the globe. I suspect tv has gotten awful enough to be triggering stress disorders.
Farming medicine should not be a criminal act. Trump will lose my support if doesn't put veterans first and let us have THC for medicine.
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Fox's Brian Kilmeade interviews Trump to ask about Zelensky and Ukraine:
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The only vegetarian I have the greatest admiration for is Ghandi.
I have noticed my anger issues not being as bad on the diet I am currently on. If it is not the diet of vegetables, then surely it could be no alcohol and tobacco.
I have noticed my anger issues not being as bad on the diet I am currently on. If it is not the diet of vegetables, then surely it could be no alcohol and tobacco.
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Ok, by that logic, men that help women get pregnant, that have an abortion, should also be sterilized.
That's pretty kind of you considering some people want women put to death or put in jail.
Space travel, no. Keep the money here to help people.
All this may become mute, since Elon and crew, along with Curtis Yarvin want to break it all.
Those on Medicare now are having Telehealth taken away from them as of April 1st.
Well, I expect there to be a die-off and that is what is wanted. We are all useless eaters to the Oligarchs.
Wow, how to stray from the original post!
That's pretty kind of you considering some people want women put to death or put in jail.
Space travel, no. Keep the money here to help people.
All this may become mute, since Elon and crew, along with Curtis Yarvin want to break it all.
Those on Medicare now are having Telehealth taken away from them as of April 1st.
Well, I expect there to be a die-off and that is what is wanted. We are all useless eaters to the Oligarchs.
Wow, how to stray from the original post!
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Some infamous vegetarians:tristanbgilb wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:34 pm Animal consumption makes people more aggressive. I have learned that some people will deliberately torture the animal before murdering it for the adrenaline rush in eating its flesh. Vegetarianism is a kinder and healthier way to live.
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I can't watch the gore in movies the way others seem to. It really affects my mood. I would like nicer programs on the public airwaves.PAL wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:43 pm Well, gee, that doesn't sound like any fun. I agree with some of the things you say and you are not a mean person, I know that.
Yes, war is evil. It's been going on for millennium. How can it be stopped? Is it the nature of humans, not all humans, however. Rhetorical questions.
Animal consumption makes people more aggressive. I have learned that some people will deliberately torture the animal before murdering it for the adrenaline rush in eating its flesh. Vegetarianism is a kinder and healthier way to live.
I think the world is getting rather small with modern technology. This smallness will bring peace to the world. The world can be a community connected to understand each other's problems and views and how nice life can really be.
Internet with all its dark places can also help people communicate. Through communication understanding and the wanting to get along, the internet may in fact save the world.
The world is turning into a rather small human home. We need to do everything to expand into the stars and make space travel a thing to grow human habitat.
We need to be creative in gaining an understanding with one another.
I think castration of the criminals might be a deterrent.
I have been thinking that women that have an abortion should also be sterilized.
I don't know. I am just brainstorming a bit.
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I'd point out that you aren't going to get very far stopping war by going after the victims. As far as I can tell Russia started this war largely because Ukraine exists and they disapprove of the idea. Having known quite a few Russian people for a long time most of them seem to believe that Ukraine isn't a real country.
You can't really "both sides" this conversation. Unless you want to go on about deranged conspiracy theories about biological weapons laboratories &c.
You can't really "both sides" this conversation. Unless you want to go on about deranged conspiracy theories about biological weapons laboratories &c.
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I tend to dish out what I receive.
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Well, gee, that doesn't sound like any fun. I agree with some of the things you say and you are not a mean person, I know that.
Yes, war is evil. It's been going on for millennium. How can it be stopped? Is it the nature of humans, not all humans, however. Rhetorical questions.
Yes, war is evil. It's been going on for millennium. How can it be stopped? Is it the nature of humans, not all humans, however. Rhetorical questions.
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You are correct and I do apologize for being particularly crabby today from my teeth extraction yesterday all paid for at VA expense through community care.PAL wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:48 pm Tristan, if Ken would stop calling people names, like dumba and others on here, maybe we could have a better conversation. Is it critical thinking to call people names and shout at them?
I do agree with the concept of my post and understand that categorizing others with mental retardation is not how I want to be. Thanks for pointing out my weakness that I will try to improve.
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Tristan, if Ken would stop calling people names, like dumba and others on here, maybe we could have a better conversation. Is it critical thinking to call people names and shout at them?
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I spent some time visiting with a nurse from USSR. She explained to me that both Putin and that Ukrainian dictator are evil and awful. She further explained that she has loved ones in both countries and is unable to take sides. Why is it that persons of firsthand experience are unable to condemn one country and instead praying for both sides. The media is programming Americans to love Ukraine and hate Russia when in fact it proper to love Russia and Ukraine without prejudice. Our country is educating its students to lifelong morons without the ability to process in coming information and use critical thinking.dorankj wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:19 pm I support STOPPING wars AND not sending 100s of billions of dollars to fund Ukraines pensions and so much more we can’t even track! It’s too bad dumba** corrupt Joe Biden was elected and Putin could do this with the bull*** weak and indecisive response from the Biden admin. Stop Endless Wars, I’m sure I’ve heard this before!
War is evil.
I was at one point in my life qualified to work at Hanford as I was qualified in reactor chemistry and radiation/contamination control. I pray for Hanford and all working there including some of my family.
I think ken does a good job communicating in a way that shows he is able to process information and express it in a way all of his own. So many people are parrots regurgitating other people's thoughts which is in fact following the media mind control machine. We are getting brainwashed in a way that resembles communist propaganda. It is an assault by the media terrorists. To me, these media machines are more evil than Putin. They are corrupting American minds to support evil over good. Why worry about the speck in my eye when there is a log in yours. Thanks for having some sense and critical thinking Ken.
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That is a much more polite way than I would put it.
I'd probably say that a person who thinks Trump's approach to Ukraine and Russia is catastrophically ignorant of their own interests.
I'd probably say that a person who thinks Trump's approach to Ukraine and Russia is catastrophically ignorant of their own interests.
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IMHO, Anybody that supports trump in his current Ukraine stance is an ignorant insensitive individual. Period.
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Ken, just what is your source of information? No, there was zero money in the aid packages that went to Ukraine that included pension monies. Your complaint falls flat. Putin invaded Ukraine. Biden did not start any wars.
https://thefulcrum.us/media-technology/ ... e-pensions Unlike you the rest of us publish our sources. You just toss out disinformation and don't even publish your sources.
What Trump is doing at this very moment to the reputation of the US goes against everything we have stood for in our history. No man left behind. And we certainly don't demand 50% of the victim's minerals.
Reuters:
'Zelenskiy rejected detailed U.S. proposal for minerals deal
U.S. wants minerals deal before talks to end Russia's war
Trump envoy in Kyiv this week for talks with Zelenskiy
NEW YORK/WASHINGTON, Feb 19 (Reuters) - The Trump administration may seek to strike a simplified minerals deal with Ukraine to get a pact in place quickly and later negotiate detailed terms, such as how much of Ukraine's vast resources the U.S. would own, two people with knowledge of the matter told Reuters on Wednesday.
This follows Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy's rejection of a detailed U.S. proposal last week that would have seen Washington receiving 50% of Ukraine's critical minerals, which include graphite, uranium, titanium and lithium, the latter a key component in electric car batteries.
https://thefulcrum.us/media-technology/ ... e-pensions Unlike you the rest of us publish our sources. You just toss out disinformation and don't even publish your sources.
What Trump is doing at this very moment to the reputation of the US goes against everything we have stood for in our history. No man left behind. And we certainly don't demand 50% of the victim's minerals.
Reuters:
'Zelenskiy rejected detailed U.S. proposal for minerals deal
U.S. wants minerals deal before talks to end Russia's war
Trump envoy in Kyiv this week for talks with Zelenskiy
NEW YORK/WASHINGTON, Feb 19 (Reuters) - The Trump administration may seek to strike a simplified minerals deal with Ukraine to get a pact in place quickly and later negotiate detailed terms, such as how much of Ukraine's vast resources the U.S. would own, two people with knowledge of the matter told Reuters on Wednesday.
This follows Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy's rejection of a detailed U.S. proposal last week that would have seen Washington receiving 50% of Ukraine's critical minerals, which include graphite, uranium, titanium and lithium, the latter a key component in electric car batteries.
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I support STOPPING wars AND not sending 100s of billions of dollars to fund Ukraines pensions and so much more we can’t even track! It’s too bad dumba** corrupt Joe Biden was elected and Putin could do this with the bull*** weak and indecisive response from the Biden admin. Stop Endless Wars, I’m sure I’ve heard this before!
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