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But that isn't what they are doing. They are basically randomly firing people. Or if the firing isn't random, it is about settling scores or advancing somebody's agenda. The whole thing is completely haphazard and at the same time totally self-serving, like watching a bunch of baboons at a salad bar.
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Rideback wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:12 pm DoD will fire 5,400 workers next week
https://apnews.com/article/pentagon-job ... fd8708232f
Having been in the Military for 20+ years I can guarantee that there are probably more than 5400 civilian employees working for the DOD that could be let go and have zero effect on efficiency
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DOGE quietly deleted the five biggest spending cuts it celebrated last week:
** an $8 billion cut at ICE was actually $8 million
** three $655 million cuts at USAID were actually a single cut erroneously posted 3 x
** a $232 million cut at Social Security Admin was actually for $565,000

This gang has some real issues with their math skills
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Monday night another 1,400 VA workers were fired.
https://www.militarytimes.com/veterans/ ... eductions/
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Yes, these are our lands. And we will take care of them. With a cadre of volunteers here in the Methow. Stay tuned.
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These are our lands.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ings-trump

'Former federal employees devastated by president’s mass firings: ‘We’re at risk of losing our public lands to the billionaire agenda’

Cassidy Randall
Sat 22 Feb 2025 10.00 EST
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Approximately 5,000 people have been terminated from the agencies that manage the 35m acres (14m hectares) of federal public lands in the US.

These are our lands. They encompass national parks and forests, wilderness and marine protected areas, scenic rivers. They are home to campgrounds, river accesses, hiking trails and myriad other sites and facilities that more than 500 million people visit each year.

The termination letters sent to employees stated that they had “not demonstrated that your further employment at the agency would be in the public interest”. Those same people fought fires, protected sacred sites, cleared trails, cleaned campgrounds and bathrooms, educated visitors and managed wildlife. They also provided safety, including search and rescue and emergency medical treatment.

All chose this career – and the low pay that comes with it – because they love the lands they worked on. The majority of them live in the small rural communities that rely on federal public lands agencies for employment. We have now lost a wealth of cumulative experience and historical knowledge; the damage to public lands, resources and livelihoods will be long-lasting. And the firings aren’t over yet.

Victoria Winch
US Forest Service wilderness forestry technician
Flathead national forest, Spotted Bear ranger district, adjacent to Glacier national park, Montana
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Victoria Winch in the Spotted Bear ranger district, where every single field person was terminated from their job. Photograph: Victoria Winch
I was on trail crew, which is responsible for creating and maintaining about 1,000 miles of hiking trails, which sometimes have to be cleared three to five times in a season from downed trees.

People come on to these lands to hunt, to feed their families. People are allowed to get firewood. Outfitters, who are a big part of the local economy, use these trails.

But every single field person at Spotted Bear was terminated. Those trails won’t get cleared this year. And it takes less than one season for them to be totally impassable.

There will be no one to warn rafters and anglers about hazards in the river, no one to post about grizzlies in an area, no one to support the fire crews. No one to even help people find their lost dogs, which I’ve also done over the years. A million acres of public land will go unmanaged.

We are hard-working, blue-collar manual laborers. We make under $40,000 a year. And we come back year after year just to have the privilege of caring for these places that we love so deeply, and making them accessible for the American people. I don’t know what’s more patriotic than that.

Adin Kloetzel
USFS packer and fire support
Pintler ranger district and Bob Marshall wilderness, Montana
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Adin Kloetzel working on a forest fire. ‘The fire crews are going to struggle without us.’ Photograph: Adin Kotzler
My job was to pack in supplies to support Forest Service trail crews, rebuild backcountry cabins, plant tree seedlings and [help] wildlife biologists to do their research, among other things. To be able to sharpen a crosscut saw, safely fell a tree or pack a mule – those are all dying arts. It’ll be very hard to bring it back.

I’m also qualified for fire support as a tree faller; I can also dig fire lines. When fires exploded in the summer, I tied up my mule and served alongside my fellow firefighters to protect our resources and our people. The fire crews are going to struggle without us.

There’s a ton of economic benefits from outfitting, guiding, hunting and fishing. Now the access will not be there for people who have made their livelihoods in the mountains for generations. I was born and raised in small-town western Montana, and I have seen the positive effect of Forest Service employees, outfitters and recreationists on our small towns.

What’s amazing to me about America is that we have these public lands – at the same time, it’s so incredibly fragile. And we’re really at risk of losing it to the billionaire agenda.

Erica Dirks
USFS archeologist
Tongass national forest, Alaska
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Erica Dirks: ‘I loved my job because I got to help preserve things that mean something to so many people.’ Photograph: Erica Dirks
Federal archeologists don’t do our jobs for the money. I loved my job because I got to help preserve things that mean something to so many people.

I’ve always wanted to work with local tribal entities and have their guidance in how they want us to interact with their heritage. My first day on this job, I consulted with our local tribal members and was immediately accepted thanks to this incredible relationship that had been fostered over 30 years by the archeology team in this part of Alaska.

When the tribal entity found out people were losing their jobs, they organized what amounted to a downtown march in our little town of 2,000 people to show their support for us. They lost their tribal liaison, the people who worked with them in recreation and fisheries, at a time when Trump has indicated he wants to rescind the Roadless Rule [a federal regulation that protects roadless areas in national forests] and open up the Tongass for logging.

We’re talking about incomprehensible damage lasting hundreds of years down the line. Now Indigenous matters won’t be considered any more.

For that termination letter to say “you haven’t proved your employment worth in the public interest,” that this work that we do isn’t valuable to our community, is absolutely ridiculous. Our community showed right away that it was.

Nick Massey
USFS wilderness Ranger
Pisgah national forest, North Carolina
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As a wilderness ranger, Nick Massey used to help park visitors who were lost or having emergencies. Photograph: Nick Massey
Being a wilderness ranger on the east coast is very different than a lot of places in the west, because we have really high visitation rates. On some of our wilderness trails, we see close to 400 visitors a day in the summertime.

We were very, very busy with public interaction, conversations, giving directions, educating. I would come up on folks quite often who were either lost or having some sort of emergency, and I’m also a member of two mountain rescue teams in the area.

I really loved seeing so many different people from different walks of life. Being able to be a part of that wilderness experience that people are having was really, truly magical.

I think we’ll start seeing a lot more abuse of public lands, because there’s not any education out there to give people some guidance on how to behave. We’ll have so much more trash. And losing jobs is really going to impact the local communities involved in working in these places.

Fenix Van Tassel
Bureau of Land Management environmental planner
Eastern Oregon and Washington
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Fenix Van Tassel on the mass firings: ‘There’s going to be a larger disparity of access to rural communities.’ Photograph: Fenix Van Tassel
Environmental planners basically determine any and every action taken on federal land, from resource extraction and grazing to installing signage, plus the rehabilitation and conservation of public lands.

This winter season, we’ve done a lot of rehabilitating burn scars from big fires. We had one of our largest fire seasons this past year, and so we’ve been out planting sagebrush for sage grouse habitat and mule deer wintering areas.

Our projects entailed issuing permits that would bring energy and broadband to rural communities out in eastern Oregon and Washington, including tribal. Part of Trump’s agenda is to push energy infrastructure, so it’s interesting that we’re getting laid off. All of these infrastructure projects, including telecommunications, just aren’t going to happen. There’s going to be a larger disparity of access to rural communities.

Any pushes for green energy, green infrastructure, anything related to climate change or environmental justice will be completely silenced and wiped off the map.

It’s sad that we got laid off, but it’s also sad for the good people who are still left on the inside. The only person that they kept from my team was a lands and realty specialist, whose job is to intake applications. But none of that work will get done – our funding was completely removed two weeks before I got fired.

Ryan Schroeder
BLM rangeland management specialist
South-west Colorado
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Ryan Schroeder says that being a rangeland management specialist was his ‘dream job’. Photograph: Ryan Schroeder
I finally got this dream job after 11 years of school and working in Montana, Wyoming, Colorado and New Mexico rangelands to be qualified for this position. It’s one of the most difficult positions to fill in public lands management agencies.

My job was to review, renew and update grazing permits for private ranchers to graze their livestock on public rangelands, and work to promote and sustain healthy habitats for all Americans, whether they’re hunting, recreating, going out on a side-by-side or grazing livestock.

Last Friday, a rancher came in and we were talking about how excited we were to get a grazing allotment reopened. He was saying that maybe, with this administration, things would finally move forward.

I was fired an hour later.

In every place that I have worked in, there are impacts from 100-plus years ago that we’re still trying to remediate and recover from. And that’s in addition to the current impacts of changing weather patterns: more aridity, less water and more intense storms. This was an opportunity to help people, help landscapes, help wildlife, help our public resources adapt to change. This was my way to serve my country.

There are a lot of people saying the national parks are going to be trashed. This is more than just trashed parks. This is the future of our ecosystem and our public land.

Fischer Gangemi
USFS river ranger
Middle and south fork of wild and scenic Rivers, Montana
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Fischer Gangemi warns trash and waste will pile up in the rivers without rangers on duty. Photograph: Fischer Gangemi
I led crews that would patrol the river corridor in the most protected watersheds in the nation.

You don’t need a permit to float our rivers, so there’s everyone from outfitters and guides to rafters to anyone with an inner tube. In a five- to six-day patrol, we would take 15-20lb of trash out of the wilderness and bury an average of 20 piles of human waste. And still, I loved every minute of it.

The community of people I worked with were the most passionate people I’ve ever worked with. I started working [for the USFS] a couple days after I graduated high school. We had to solve all of the problems we found in the wilderness on our own, which was really good for me.

Without rangers out there, it’s going to be really bad. Trash will pile up, waste will pile up. Rivers are dynamic, and so a high water year might clean it out – but all that trash is just going downstream, and that’s just really sickening.
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It is easy for Trump and Musk to destroy an agency or institution because they do not think it is efficient, to treat it like a business for profit. You can always find something you don’t like if you dig deep enough. The possibilities are endless, particularly if you do not need to give evidence, or the evidence you give is not true.

The Government is not a private for-profit corporation. There are many intangibles that are difficult to monetize or measure, like expertise, like goodwill, like decency. The currency system, banks, and prosperity of the US rely on faith and credibility. So for a fraction of a percent of the Budget, they are destroying many livelihoods and the credibility of the Government.

Let’s assume some budget savings are available. Is the Orange Clown is the one to go after them? Let’s see: he declared bankruptcy multiple times (4,5,6?), stiffed his suppliers each time, cheated on his taxes and his wives, said publicly that Climate Change is a hoax, that if you grab women by the crotch they’ll do what you want, etc. He has abandoned reason, truth, and evidence. It does not seem like he is the right one to reform the Government. It does not belong to him or his South African sidekick and his minions.

It belongs to us.

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From Wall Street Journal:

DOJ lawyers keep getting in trouble because they rely on factual statements made by Trump administration officials that rarely turn out to be true. A judge posed what he thought was a straightforward question: As the government laid off federal employees en masse, was it required to give advance notice to newly hired workers who were still in their probationary periods? “Your honor, I don’t have the answer to that precise question off the top of my head,” said Justice Department lawyer Abhishek Kambli, representing the Trump administration in a hearing last week.
“OK, but that strikes me as a pretty important question,” said U.S. District Judge Christopher Cooper, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, in Washington, D.C.
It was the kind of uncomfortable exchange that has been increasingly familiar over the past month as government lawyers have scrambled to defend against scores of lawsuits spurred by President Trump’s blitz of executive actions. During fast-moving proceedings, DOJ lawyers at times have struggled on questions of law and fact about what Trump and his lieutenants are actually doing, drawing frustration and rebukes from judges across the country. In some cases, lawyers later submitted corrections to what they have told the courts.
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Post from Bob Doucette: USFS Public Affairs Officer

'I’ve seen a mix of DOGE fanboy/fangirl praise and people who are angry at the work DOGE is doing. Figured I’d chime in with a more insider’s look.
DOGE got going with the idea of cutting fraud and waste. I’m sure there is both in the federal government. But DOGE isn’t doing that. They’re just cutting to cut.
At the Forest Service, we lost 3,400 people, mostly recent hires but also some more established workers. The vast majority of these folks aren’t Washington bureaucrats, but people working in rural America. Almost all of them having nothing to do with any ‘agenda’ the new administration is gunning for.
Here’s who we lost:
Trail crews. Biologists. Foresters. Front desk help at ranger stations. Engineers. Surveyors. GIS specialists. Hydrologists. Researchers who study anything from plant and animal species to wildfire behavior. Rec specialists.
Losing these people means forest roads don’t get maintained. Trails will be closed. So will campgrounds. Wildfire prevention projects will be delayed or shelved. Timber stands will be unavailable for logging.
In these rural (and often conservative) communities, the Forest Service and other federal land agencies provide good jobs to places where opportunities are few. Local sawmills will lose business. Communities that depend on visitors who hike, camp, ride and boat will lose income when services are scaled back. In Trinity County, that means more hardship for the poorest county in California.
I’ve talked to several people around the area and I hear similar stories. Partner agencies are worried that joint projects focusing on wildfire prevention are in jeopardy. Farmers, ranchers and loggers are increasingly angry that USDA and other federal contracts are being delayed or scrapped; some of these folks face ruin.
In the words of a coworker who is still with the agency, ‘I voted for Trump. I support the things he wants to do. But I didn’t vote for this.’ (He’s a longtime firefighter now in the communications field).
What he’s feeling is echoed elsewhere. Another colleague says her forest is at 36% workforce staffing. You simply can’t manage a forest with so few people, and that’s where a lot of forests are at.
Elon says DOGE has saved taxpayers $55 billion. The real number is more like $8 billion, and even that number doesn’t square for this reason: it doesn’t measure the cost associated with cuts. You lose services, you lose value.
Think of it this way. You’ve got a car/truck that doesn’t drive as fast or haul are much as you’d like. If it was lighter, it would have less weight to hinder performance, we’re told.
But instead of taking a hard look at the vehicle’s design, a bunch of untrained mechanics start removing parts. A bearing here, a gear there. Take out that belt. Lose a fender and a seat. And who checks transmission fluid anyway? Rip the system out. And lose some of that wiring. On the bright side, you lightened the vehicle by 300 pounds. But now the vehicle won’t start, or when it does, it seizes up and won’t run anymore.
That’s what DOGE is doing. There’s no thought behind these cuts (they’re trying to rehire Energy Department workers they fired who oversaw our nuclear stockpile, as well as scientists who were tracking the bird flu epidemic). No ‘auditing’ is being done. Half the time, these people are making snap judgments based on information they don’t understand, then yelling ‘fraud!’ based on those erroneous conclusions.
The deep state hunt will have impacts. Back in my neck of the woods, our forests will become less healthy, less accessible and, with the delay in seasonal fire hiring, less safe. Winter rain and snow assures a ton of spring growth, but we’re not far from the hot, dry season that will turn these forests into a tinderbox.
I can’t speak for the impact of other agencies’ cuts. But nothing in our forests is being made great again. It’s putting them in greater jeopardy of seeing catastrophic wildfire, where the scenes we saw in Paradise, Lahaina and LA could be repeated with our communities less able to defend themselves.
I’ll close with this: Just because this doesn’t affect you now doesn’t mean it won’t soon. It will. If that bothers you, call your congress reps and senators, especially if they’re Rs. They need to know, and they need to feel some heat. Get vocal before the whole enterprise crashes on our heads.'
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Crag rats fighting back!
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The picture of the American flag draped across the rock face of El Capitan in Yosemite - upside down as a sign of distress is heartbreaking.

By Gregory Thomas,
Travel & Outdoors Editor
Updated Feb 22, 2025 11:05 p.m.
An upside-down American flag hangs from El Capitan near Yosemite National Park’s Horsetail Fall on Saturday to protest the thousands of federal job cuts made by President Donald Trump’s administration.
An upside-down American flag hangs from El Capitan near Yosemite National Park’s Horsetail Fall on Saturday to protest the thousands of federal job cuts made by President Donald Trump’s administration.
A group of frustrated Yosemite National Park staffers hoping to draw attention to the federal government’s sweeping workforce cuts hung an upside-down American flag Saturday thousands of feet off the ground on the side of El Capitan.
The 3,000-foot granite cliff looms above Yosemite Valley, and thousands of eyes were on it Saturday evening for the dramatic stunt: It’s the last weekend of the annual firefall spectacle, which brings scores of onlookers to Yosemite.
Dozens, if not hundreds, of large telephoto cameras set up by visitors Saturday in a viewing area on the valley floor were trained high on El Capitan to capture the ephemeral moments when the day’s last light illuminates Horsetail Fall as if it were a cascade of lava pouring over the cliff.
The upside-down flag — traditionally a symbol of distress or a national threat — was strung near the falls and clearly visible.
“We’re bringing attention to what’s happening to the parks, which are every American’s properties,” Gavin Carpenter, a maintenance mechanic with Yosemite and disabled military veteran who supplied the flag and helped hang it Saturday, told the Chronicle. “It’s super important we take care of them, and we’re losing people here, and it’s not sustainable if we want to keep the parks open.”
An upside-down American flag hangs from El Capitan near Yosemite National Park’s Horsetail Fall on Saturday to protest the thousands of federal job cuts made by President Donald Trump’s administration.
An upside-down American flag hangs from El Capitan near Yosemite National Park’s Horsetail Fall on Saturday to protest the thousands of federal job cuts made by President Donald Trump’s administration.
Eleven of Yosemite’s full-time staff members, including the park’s sole locksmith, a biologist, an HVAC specialist and others, received a termination email on Feb. 14 — along with thousands of federal lands workers across the country, some of whom have spoken out about the pain and dejection they feel being summarily dismissed from jobs they love. Yosemite staffers typically live in employer-provided housing in the park, so a termination can carry the added burden for many of losing their residence.
“Since these cuts came, a lot of people are really uneasy and worried about what’s going to happen to them,” Carpenter said.
Yosemite visitors offered mixed reactions to the flag Saturday.
Renis and Rebecca Harvey of Greeley Hill (Mariposa County) set up their cameras Saturday to capture Yosemite National Park’s firefall on Horsetail Fall at El Capitan. “I did see the flag,” Rebecca Harvey said. “I would rather see nature — no hand of man.”
Renis and Rebecca Harvey of Greeley Hill (Mariposa County) set up their cameras Saturday to capture Yosemite National Park’s firefall on Horsetail Fall at El Capitan. “I did see the flag,” Rebecca Harvey said. “I would rather see nature — no hand of man.
“At first thought the upside-down flag was for Trump support, but then realized it was to support the national parks, and I was for it,” said Tina Alidio, visiting from Las Vegas.
“If the flag is for national parks, I am all for it,” said Joe Amaral, also from Las Vegas. “We have been to 32 national parks. We think they are short on resources as it is, and now you want to take away more. It isn’t right.”
But Rebecca Harvey of Greeley Hill (Mariposa County) said: “I would rather see nature — no hand of man.”
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Separate from the flag demonstration Saturday afternoon, Jackson Fitzsimmons, who said he was wilderness ranger with Sierra National Forest until he was terminated in the widespread staffing cuts, stood in front of Yosemite’s welcome center to relay a similar message to visitors passing by.
“There are people who, with no warning and no cause, have lost their jobs, are going to have to move, are going to have to struggle to survive with their families,” said Fitzsimmons, who wore a ranger uniform.
Demonstrators protest sweeping federal job cuts Saturday outside Yosemite National Park’s visitor center.
Demonstrators protest sweeping federal job cuts Saturday outside Yosemite National Park’s visitor center.
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The group of six flag demonstrators rigged ropes at the top of El Capitan and rappelled down the cliff face to unfurl the flag, which measures 30 by 50 feet. Carpenter said they’d leave it up for a few hours until around the time of the firefall event, then roll it back up and leave — enough time for it to register with viewers in the valley but not so long that it would ruin the photos they came to take of the famous natural spectacle.
Shortly after hanging the banner, the group sent out a statement:
“The purpose of this exercise of free speech is to disrupt without violence and draw attention to the fact that public lands in the United States are under attack,” it reads. “The Department of the Interior issued a series of secretarial orders that position drilling and mining interests as the favored uses of America’s public lands and threaten to scrap existing land protections and conservation measures. Firing 1,000s of staff regardless of position or performance across the nation is the first step in destabilizing the protections in place for these great places.”
Saturday’s last light illuminates Horsetail Fall on El Capitan in Yosemite National Park, a phenomenon known as the firefall because it resembles a cascade of lava over the cliff.
Saturday’s last light illuminates Horsetail Fall on El Capitan in Yosemite National Park, a phenomenon known as the firefall because it resembles a cascade of lava over the cliff.
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The statement continued:
“These losses, while deeply personal and impactful, may also be invisible to visitors and members of the public — we are shining a spotlight on them by putting a distress flag on El Capitan in view of Firefall. Think of it as your public lands on strike.”
It’s uncommon that people use El Capitan to deliver such messages, in part because of the technical know-how required to access the sheer cliff face. But it has happened a couple of times in recent years.
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Last summer, a group of demonstrators temporarily hung a banner reading “Stop the genocide” from the cliff in an effort to bring awareness to the Israeli offensive in Gaza.
The picture of the American flag hanging upside down is truly remarkable and heartbreaking
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We are losing resources. You tube posted by WA state firefighter, first responder recounting his service and termination
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BeDZr6hiG/
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Wall Street Journal reports their analysis of the DOGE website claim that finds savings of $55 billion in cuts is actually $2.6 billion.
FYI, Wall Street Journal is owned by Murdoch so part of the Fox family.
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This is what I titled this post and it was the Rachel Maddow video I posted. But this latest post by Rideback is much more in-depth.
Yarvin acts like he is a know it all. So superior acting. Actually he is a total idiot.
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If you don't know him, you don't understand what's going on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcSil8NeQq8

Goal: Monarchy
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"“Today I lost my dream job as a permanent park ranger in the NPS. I’m still in shock, and completely devastated. I have dedicated my life to being a public servant, teacher, and advocate for places that we ALL cherish. I have saved lives and put my own life at risk to serve my community. And today, without any warning, I got a termination email stating:
“The Department determined that you have failed to demonstrate fitness or qualifications for continued employment because your subject matter knowledge, skills, and abilities do not meet the Department’s current needs, and it is necessary and appropriate to terminate, during the probationary period, your appointment to the position of Park Ranger.”
This is the biggest slap in the face imaginable.
This decision has nothing to do with performance or the needs of the department. My supervisors and park leadership have made it clear that I am a valued and essential part of the team. This decision came from the top, DOGE and the new federal administration.
I honestly can’t imagine how the parks will operate without my position. I mean, they just can’t. I am the only EMT at my park and the first responder for any emergency. This is flat-out reckless.
There are 800 other National Park employees that unexpectedly lost their jobs today and thousands of people in other agencies. They are now unemployed. Those who lived in park housing are now homeless. They have no income to support their families, by the act of a single layoff. These are U.S. citizens, with background checks and college degrees. These are the people who teach your Jr Rangers, build your trails, clean your restrooms, rescue injured visitors, and keep the parks operating. We are not the excess. We are essential to maintaining access to parks.
My heart is broken for all of the other people who lost their jobs and their housing. My heart is broken for the parks and landscapes that will be damaged. And my heart is broken for my country.”
- Alex Wild, former ranger at Yosemite National Park
Please share this and take action by messaging congress at npca.org/jobcuts
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DoD will fire 5,400 workers next week
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USDA cuts will impact farmers, kids enrolled in Future Farmers and so much more
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Re: Delete the Government

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My own feeling is that a clever adversary would do nothing at all. It is going to be far harder to recover from a self-inflicted injury than something done by an enemy. And we are doing so much damage to ourselves that a terrorist attack probably won't hurt us much more.

Although it probably is unwise to assume that our adversaries would do the smart thing.
:arrow: David Bonn :idea:
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