Project 2025

[just-jim]

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Good - brief - interview with Timothy Snyder about project 2025. From about 10 days ago on MSNBC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfRmFExDbEw

Describes, well, how some of our friends get sucked into this crap.
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[just-jim]

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More clear ties of project 2025 to FELON donnie…despite his LIES to the contrary.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... -officials
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/ ... 0469&ei=24

[just-jim]

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Some of the MAGA-scum - from the 2025 crowd - lined up on Policy positions if FELON Pee-pants donnie is - unlikely - elected.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/r ... s-2nd-term
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[just-jim]

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Gosh…..who would have thought, Project 2025 is the brain child of religious zealots!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... 5-opus-dei

One called it it “a political project shrouded in a veil of spirituality”….
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[pasayten]

"Shillbilly uber-misogynist JD Vance is about to learn that working woman Taylor Swift is childless and has cats... along with a reported 283 million followers on Instagram, 32.8 million followers on TikTok, 95.2 million followers on X, and 105 million monthly listeners on Spotify. Crossover notwithstanding, people like her almost as much as people are coming to despise him.
Indeed, a 2023 study by Morning Consult Survey found that a mind-blowing 53% of U.S. adults identified as fans of hers. Try to shake that off on November 5, dumba**.’
- JJ McCoy”

[mister_coffee]

JD Vance is into Project 2025 up to his beady little eyes.

Top Google searches right now: "JD Vance couch"

[just-jim]

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I grew up in Colorado and graduated Univ there….and I never did like crappy Coors beer.
But, I’d forgotten about the Coors’ family support of Reagan in the 1980’s, and their tie to the Heritage Foundation.
And now Project 2025….

https://www.rawstory.com/coors-project-2025/

Avoid all these brews: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... ors_brands
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[pasayten]

[mister_coffee]

Basically the 2024 Republican party is pro-sexual assault and pro-domestic violence. Next I'm sure they'll argue for torturing puppies.

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Ken just cannot stand goodness.

[Rideback]

Women's rights evaporate under a Republican rule
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... bbcPHL7WSQ

'The Republican party of the United States remains the party of denying women fundamental human rights. The US press as a whole remains the instrument of softening up or ignoring this reality.

“Trump has long been criticized for his public treatment of women,” ran a CNN headline. “The ones in his life argue he’s different in private.” What follows is a puff piece in which prominent Republican women say nice things about him, and his history of alleged sexual assault is mentioned several paragraphs down.

The first Mrs Trump is no longer in his life, though she’s buried on his New Jersey golf course, but she charged him with raping her – at home, in private – in her 1990 sworn divorce testimony. E Jean Carroll is only casually in his life, but she won a civil lawsuit against him for sexual assault in the privacy of a department store dressing room and a second one for public defamation, and he owes her tens of millions of dollars for these cases. CNN does get around to mentioning Carroll in passing, but praise from Trump’s protege Sarah Huckabee Sanders and his lawyer and daughter-in-law get the lionesses’ share of attention, and headlines are often all viewed

Rape is an assault on the victim’s body but also on her (or his or their) agency and right to bodily autonomy, though the assault on agency and autonomy can and does take many forms – and the Republican party and its candidates for president and vice-president support many of them. The Republican party has uncomplainingly offered up an adjudicated rapist as their presidential candidate and rallied behind a vice-presidential candidate, JD Vance, who has shown great enthusiasm for denying women basic rights and safety and sometimes survival.


One of the crucial ways Vance has sought to deny women basic rights is by what has been dubbed menstrual surveillance. In 2023, the federal Department of Health and Human Services proposed a revision to medical privacy regulations “to shield the protected health information of patients seeking lawful reproductive health care from disclosure for the purpose of criminal, civil, and administrative investigations”. Vance was one of the eight Republican senators who filed a letter of protest declaring: “Under the Proposed Rule, however, States would be forced to cede their powers to investigate criminal abortion-related activity.”

In other words, the revision would protect women’s right to privacy around pregnancy and birth control-related healthcare, and Vance was having none of it. As Talking Points Memo put it: “The news has been filled with proposed or actual laws which would attempt to restrict travel to receive abortions in other states, charge those who travel or criminalize those who might facilitate such travel or facilitate the legal shipment of prescribed abortion drugs through the mail. But to enforce these laws or know when there’s something to enforce you really need access to medical records. You need to know and be able to prove when a woman was pregnant and then, before the end of normal gestation, stopped being pregnant.”

In other words, to carry out these laws, the state needs to criminalize being female and fertile and put those who are under surveillance. Vance is an anti-abortion hardliner who supports a national abortion ban with no exceptions. He’s also taken to sneering at women who don’t have children, which is, I suppose, consistent with his attacks on reproductive rights and advocacy of regressive gender roles.

Another way Vance supported violence against women is with his infamous 2022 declaration that women should stay in violent marriages for the sake of the kids. “This is one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace, which is the idea that, like: ‘Well, OK, these marriages were fundamentally, you know, they were maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy,” but ending them “didn’t work out for the kids of those marriages”.

It’s an astonishing statement if an insufficiently unusual one, the idea that the heterosexual two-parent household is somehow so magically beneficent that even if the dad is beating the mom, it’s better for the kids than having an unbattered mom and a peaceful home.

Vance defended his statement by saying: “In fact, modern society’s war on families has made our domestic violence situation much worse,” which is outrageously untrue. The feminist movement brought attention to domestic violence, created domestic violence shelters, put pressure on law enforcement to address that violence, and worked to give women the economic equality and rights that give them more power to leave abusers. The cumulative effect of these measures has, along with a new ethos recognizing that women are possessed of certain inalienable rights, reduced the incidence of this often-hidden crime.


What breaks up families in which there is violence is the violence, not the victims’ ability to escape that violence. The man who is beating his wife is often also beating his children, and intimate-partner violence all too often ends in the victim’s death, especially if there are guns on hand. One parent killing the other is bad for the kids, too, and male partners are the leading cause of death for pregnant women and women who have recently given birth in the USA, which the right-to-life advocates should show an interest in – but don’t.

This is why coercive control, including intimate-partner violence (IPV), and abortion are not separate issues. The man who is beating his wife may also be raping her or engaging in sexual and reproductive coercion, in this country where feminists first made marital rape a concept and then got it recognized by the law (only in 1993 did all US states recognize marital rape, but there are still many loopholes, including states that don’t recognize marital rape in cases when the partner was unconscious or incapacitated). And that brings us back to reproductive rights.

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists notes that reproductive coercion includes “explicit attempts to impregnate a partner against her will, control outcomes of a pregnancy, coerce a partner to have unprotected sex, and interfere with contraceptive methods”.

The college’s website adds: “One quarter of adolescent females reported that their abusive male partners were trying to get them pregnant through interference with planned contraception, forcing the female partners to hide their contraceptive methods,” and: “One study found that women with unintended pregnancies were four times more likely to experience IPV than women whose pregnancies were intended.”

In other words, a lot of unwanted and unplanned pregnancies are the result of male coercion, not, as the right would have you believe, female carelessness. Which is why abortion is a crucial part of reproductive rights; a person whose pregnancy was the result of the violation of her rights needs to retain the right to terminate it. Pregnancy, as many women who have borne children have reminded us recently, is a life-changing experience that can result in incapacitation, lasting injury, economic hardship including the inability to work and care for other children, and sometimes death, especially in the absence of adequate medical care.

The denial of access to abortion is bringing women in states such as Texas and Idaho to the brink of death – as the journalist Jessica Valenti recently reported.

Idaho women are weekly being airlifted to states where they can receive life-saving healthcare and doctors are sometimes recommending they buy evacuation insurance. Valenti also reports: “Rape victims are being denied emergency contraception in medical centers and hospital emergency rooms” because the war against reproductive rights is expanding to go after in-vitro fertilization and birth control, two more ways women can choose whether and how to have children.


In his 2016 memoir, Hillbilly Elegy, Vance writes of his grandfather: “I couldn’t believe that mild-mannered Papaw, who I adored as a child, was such a violent drunk.” In the next sentence, he blames his grandmother: “His behavior was due at least partly to Mamaw’s disposition,” adding: “she’d fight back. In short, she devoted herself to making his drunken life a living hell,” itemizing more of her violence than his, though he does mention in passing the grandfather also gave his own daughter a black eye when she tried to break up a fight between the couple. It’s not hard to imagine this poor woman first impregnated by this man when she was 13 stayed with him for lack of better options; it’s clear Vance approves of her staying.

The November election is a referendum on major issues – the climate, the economy, the survival of democracy in America, the makeup of the supreme court – other than the personalities of the candidates on the top of the ticket. The horse-race journalism and its relentless focus on Biden’s age and oratorical shortcomings obscured that. But those personalities connect to the issues, and while perhaps Biden’s decades of leadership on legislation on violence against women is no longer relevant, the bill itself is.'

It was reauthorized and expanded in 2022 to add protections for Native American, trans and immigrant women, and to address cyberstalking and cyberporn. The majority of Republicans in the House and Senate voted against it. On the other hand, we now have a race for the presidency between a prosecutor and a man convicted of 34 felonies, with a Yale law school graduate on the ticket with Trump: the JD Vance of 2016 tweeted: “What percentage of the American population has @realDonaldTrump sexually assaulted?” but the JD Vance of 2024 has made it clear he doesn’t care.'

[dorankj]

That Biden speech (and most of his) and this ridiculous gaslighting switcheroo to Kackles is the real ‘absurdities and injustices’! Catch a clue.

[pasayten]

Pretty much sums up the trumpican party right now…

[dorankj]

Here’s your desperation PAL!

[just-jim]

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Adoption by people of a different religious faith than the adoption agency could be disallowed.
Project 2025 would prevent lawsuits based on religion.

Jewish couple denied ability to adopt: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... -fostering

Nope. Never.
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[just-jim]

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Turns out Vance has written a ‘foreward’ to the 2025 plan…..even as FELON donnie and the rest the MAGA azz hats try to distance themselves from that plan.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/artic ... in-roberts

“What the media and the Democrats are trying to do is attach its most unpopular elements to the Trump administration. It’s a 900-page document. I guarantee there are things that Trump likes and dislikes … but he is the person who will determine the agenda of the next administration.”

Hmmmm….just wondering….if the r’s dont claim ‘2025’ plans, exactly what ARE their plans? Or, is a case of - ‘trust us…put us in office then we’ll let you know which pieces we’ll implement’? What is their platform? They dont have one….

Nope. Never.
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[just-jim]

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They want to privatize it but now it only costs the taxpayer $4 per year. If it goes away, well, we have to do it locally, I guess and it would not be nearly as helpful.
Is that a new fire near Electric City?

[mister_coffee]

Also we need to keep in mind that Accuweather and the Weather Channel really just use a modified version of the NWS/NOAA forecasts. Kind of hard to see how they'd function if we took the NWS away.

For a while Panasonic (!) used data from commercial aircraft to enhance NWS forecasts. This after NWS had set up the program and then the budget was cut. I do not know if they still do that.

[Rideback]

With the dry lightning storm predicted for tomorrow I have to thank the Nat'l Weather Service for all the work they do so that everybody can get their sh** together. Big fire this afternoon Electric City is drawing resources out of Okanogan and Gold Creek keeps firing up again which means that Winthrop, Twisp and Carlton all get toned.

Better to be forewarned that reading tea leaves for the weather predictions.

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I'll keep trying. Meanwhile, Project 2025 wants to eliminate the National Weather Service.

[dorankj]

I appreciate your apology.

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I'm sorry Ken that was not right of me to say that last line. We can differ but I don't have to get mean.

[dorankj]

Why throw that last line in? Because you don’t like my politics I’m unqualified to be fire commissioner even though I’m a 30 year professional firefighter with a good career and tons of relevant experience? You lefties are real screwballs!