Opinion: Ready for Round 2: Why we Need Hillary more than ever
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A few Dems or fake Dem posts, seem to be using that meme that their vote has been taken away from them without any say. Until the Convention, there was no official nominee. What would they say if Biden had died? Oh that's different.
He did the right thing regardless if he was pushed of otherwise.
Now Republicans will be spending all their time digging up dirt on whoever the Dems. nominate instead of focusing on problems and solving them.
Dig the hole deeper.
He did the right thing regardless if he was pushed of otherwise.
Now Republicans will be spending all their time digging up dirt on whoever the Dems. nominate instead of focusing on problems and solving them.
Dig the hole deeper.
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One old guy gone... One more to go...
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Typical…‘Joe is unfit’, ‘Joe must go’, Joe is ‘too old’, Joe has dementia..’, etc…dorankj wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:20 pm Too bad you guys don’t believe in democracy! I thought Joe Biden won the primary fair and square (lol) with 14 million votes? Now he can be pushed out without any vote by your party elites? Boy, who could have seen this coming, I wonder?!
But, now he does leave. Oh…the gnashing of teeth!
Biden won the ‘primary’ in several/many states. Not that there IS actually a ‘primary’ that involves a sitting President. But…
Oh, wait…I forgot I’m talking to someone with an 8th grade understanding of history and politics….
Never mind…..
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Too bad you guys don’t believe in democracy! I thought Joe Biden won the primary fair and square (lol) with 14 million votes? Now he can be pushed out without any vote by your party elites? Boy, who could have seen this coming, I wonder?!
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Im with David….I’d vote for that skunk. Or a box of hot rocks. Or a hemlock stump….They would all be better than a convicted FELON, a drug-addled Depends wearing stumble-bum who cant walk 50 feet without assistance.
I was - unfortunately- in a place today to meet a friend and had to witness FAUX NOOZ headline crawl….it was all ‘Kamala Cover-up’, ‘Joe’s dementia known for years’, ‘Democrats thwarting democracy’….on and on..
Biden has his faults, like anyone….but his decades of public service cant be forgotten and should be celebrated. Pee-Pants never held a public office until 2017.
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Im with David….I’d vote for that skunk. Or a box of hot rocks. Or a hemlock stump….They would all be better than a convicted FELON, a drug-addled Depends wearing stumble-bum who cant walk 50 feet without assistance.
I was - unfortunately- in a place today to meet a friend and had to witness FAUX NOOZ headline crawl….it was all ‘Kamala Cover-up’, ‘Joe’s dementia known for years’, ‘Democrats thwarting democracy’….on and on..
Biden has his faults, like anyone….but his decades of public service cant be forgotten and should be celebrated. Pee-Pants never held a public office until 2017.
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I voted for Hillary but don't want her to run on the ticket. She could not win.
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So now you would support someone that said "What difference does it make when the Embassy was over run and the Ambassator was drug through the streets. You folks are totally F ed up to even think of Killery. As farxas Whitmer goes ask the people of MI what they think of her now she has screwed up that state almost as bad as Inslease has this state
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And as usual all the news outlets like Fox(Laura Ingram) are already being nasty about Kamala. Elon is gloating.
Gotta rally no matter who is running on the Dem side. Women! the young voters who weren't going to vote, etc.
Gotta rally no matter who is running on the Dem side. Women! the young voters who weren't going to vote, etc.
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So Whitmer or Shapiro for VP most likely.
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Wow, I hadn't heard yet that he stepped down. My vote will be Kamala
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Biden has stepped down. Will address the nation later this week. We must get behind Kamala. Believe me, don't scoff. She can galvanize the young vote, the black vote, those that don't want any old men to be president. Just today, a Trump rally. He was his old self, insulting, calling people names. The Republicans wanted Biden to keep running so they could keep digging at him. Now they can't. They will try to rake Kamala and it may well backfire.
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I'd vote for a dead skunk if the choice was between it and Donald Trump.
On the other side of it, I think there are better figures in the Democratic Party right now than Hillary Clinton and we need to get past that.
She did lose the election in 2016, an election that she appeared to be poised to win against a very weak opponent.
She was, in my opinion, too old in 2016, much less 2024.
The Rs have been digging dirt up on her for years. Why make the hit jobs easier for them? And face facts, there's a large portion of our population that would believe literally anything the fever swamps make up about her. I'm sure whoever gets nominated will be hit with the Republican Slime Machine, but can't we at least make them work at it a bit?
I also feel the Famous Last Name effect is toxic in our politics and people of good conscience should resist the temptation.
I think we need to get somebody much younger in there. Also, the contrast between Trump and a younger and more vigorous candidate would make good visuals.
On the other side of it, I think there are better figures in the Democratic Party right now than Hillary Clinton and we need to get past that.
She did lose the election in 2016, an election that she appeared to be poised to win against a very weak opponent.
She was, in my opinion, too old in 2016, much less 2024.
The Rs have been digging dirt up on her for years. Why make the hit jobs easier for them? And face facts, there's a large portion of our population that would believe literally anything the fever swamps make up about her. I'm sure whoever gets nominated will be hit with the Republican Slime Machine, but can't we at least make them work at it a bit?
I also feel the Famous Last Name effect is toxic in our politics and people of good conscience should resist the temptation.
I think we need to get somebody much younger in there. Also, the contrast between Trump and a younger and more vigorous candidate would make good visuals.
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I would (and did) vote for Hillary. She actually won the popular vote and should have been elected, instead of Trump. The electoral college makes me feel like my vote doesn't count. But damned if I'll ever stop voting,
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Interesting……
I’d not thought about her as a replacement.
I dunno…I sort of agree with Pearl….I think she’s a pretty divisive figure (regardless of whether that label is deserved, or not).
Yes, she could probably raise $$,
A bunch of “voters who, with a healthy dose of hindsight, regret not supporting her in 2016…”. Nah….I dont see that.
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Interesting……
I’d not thought about her as a replacement.
I dunno…I sort of agree with Pearl….I think she’s a pretty divisive figure (regardless of whether that label is deserved, or not).
Yes, she could probably raise $$,
A bunch of “voters who, with a healthy dose of hindsight, regret not supporting her in 2016…”. Nah….I dont see that.
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Hillary is/was good and qualified but ... One of the big mistakes was that she called the Trump supporters deplorables and then Comey's timing caused her to lose the election. Wouldn't it be nice to turn those undecideds into deciding to vote for Hillary. Ain't gonna happen, IMO.
She is a strong woman but I think there is too much against her.
She is a strong woman but I think there is too much against her.
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Opinion: Ready for Round 2: Why we Need Hillary more than ever
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Opinion: Ready for Round 2: Why we Need Hillary more than ever
Opinion by Pablo O’Hana, opinion contributor, The Hill
"Replace Biden? But who?”
The strongest argument against replacing President Joe Biden as the 2024 Democratic nominee is the notion that no suitable successor exists. But there is, and not just a good one but one of the most qualified people ever to run for the office: Hillary Rodham Clinton.
For what feels like longer than two weeks, we have publicly and endlessly debated about Biden’s candidacy. Democrats have repeatedly called on him to make a decision. It is damaging, divisive and only serves to further improve Donald Trump’s chances. I have ferociously defended Biden in the past and demanded that Democrats fall in line behind our guy, but we need to put the debate to bed. If Biden is to yield the arena, we must consider why Clinton is not just a fitting champion to take up the mantle, but perhaps the mightiest of all.
Let’s get this out of the way first: Clinton is younger than both Biden and Trump. Given the current furor over age, this is not a trivial fact; energy and stamina are equated with capability.
Clinton is a ready-made replacement. She possesses an unparalleled resume and an unmatched depth of experience. She has consistently redefined the roles she has served, from secretary of State and U.S. senator to first lady and Children’s Defense Fund attorney. Her extensive background in domestic and international affairs is not just impressive; at a time when global politics are increasingly volatile and complex, her experience is priceless. Her continued advocacy for children’s rights and health care—a topic of ever-increasing importance post-pandemic—adds another layer of appeal.
Critics will be quick to point to the 2016 controversies, which ranged from emails to, well, mostly emails, but these attacks are tired and exhaustively investigated, and she has been cleared of all charges — Donald Trump has not.
Despite winning the popular vote, there are millions of voters who, with a healthy dose of hindsight, regret not supporting her in 2016. This buyer’s remorse reflects her undimmed capability and a broader disillusionment with Trump’s divisive rhetoric. These swing-back voters are crucial to winning; Clinton can turn past regrets into proactive support by being a powerful reminder of the stakes of straying in 2024. And according to a poll released in the wake of Biden’s disastrous debate, Clinton is already favored to take down Trump, 43 percent to 41 percent.
Acknowledging lessons from past campaigns is not about just correcting mistakes but also adapting to the ever-changing political landscape. Biden won under unusual circumstances, campaigning primarily from his home in lockdown. Having been on the ground in 2016 and a front-row spectator in 2020, Clinton is uniquely placed to evaluate and improve campaign strategies. Fundraising would not be a challenge for her; throughout her campaigns for office, she amassed billions in campaign funds from grassroots donations, high-dollar fundraisers and political action committees.
From women’s rights and education to global diplomacy and health care, Clinton has traveled the world delivering passionate speeches. Her ability to connect with diverse audiences and articulate complex ideas with clarity and conviction re-establishes her as a formidable global stateswoman, contrasting with Trump’s ridicule by world leaders.
But it’s not all about Clinton. Recent elections in India, South Africa, the United Kingdon and France highlight a global challenge for incumbents, with some suffering catastrophic losses. Widespread demand for change, no matter how vague, has often proven insurmountable. Clinton can campaign on her extraordinary record of public service and proven leadership while avoiding the pitfalls of incumbency, embodying both stability and renewal — a strategy recently successful in the UK.
Then there is the obvious, yet still historic, potential for her to become the country’s first female president — a milestone that unfortunately has still not been met.
But I’m not naive. Throughout my career, I’ve had the privilege of working closely with female political leaders, and it has been uniquely painful. In the UK 2019 general election, I witnessed the mistreatment of Jo Swinson, the first female leader of the Liberal Democrats, whose shoes and teeth ended up playing a remarkable role in her perceived leadership credibility. Instead of articulating her vision, she battled questions about balancing her leadership with looking after children. She was shut out from the TV debates and ridiculed when she pushed back. A fortune was spent on protection from relentless threats against her family, while a surge in sexist and derogatory online searches characterized the campaign’s final month.
Clinton, who has navigated these turbulent waters with admirable resilience, offers a tangible path to overcoming these biases. From there, she can rewrite the rules — something she’s done once or twice before.
The Democrats have a seasoned, savvy and adaptable candidate in Hillary Clinton. Without the burden of incumbency, she can run on a platform of stability, restoration and progress, with the credibility of her lifetime in public service and proven leadership. In her candidacy, we might just find our best chance to retain the White House and transcend the gladiatorial spectacle of politics.
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