Economists say Trump's plans would blow up the economy

[just-jim]

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And, of course - BIG surprise - you are also WRONG about crime being up….

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... in-the-us/
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Since you dont do big people words/logic..…here’s the graphics (thats what adults use when talking to folks with cognitive problems):
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[just-jim]

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I thought we were talking about economics…..but hey SCARY border crime? Here’s the real deal:

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/break ... n-figures/

The only difference between FELON donnie and PRESIDENT BIDEN with regard to the Southern border….pee-pants DID change some of the things, with-in his power to do so. Otherwise….not much difference.

Since I know you won’t - or can’t - read and understand the article above - here’s the salient graphic:..
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[dorankj]

If you force people to say insurrection, it was the worst one ever attempted in history, so yes it’s much more like a riot that got out of hand. Many people were escorted by capital police. I REALLY don’t think DT is the devil or Nazi or in collusion with Putin, you can have your opinion but it doesn’t make it true and you’ve truly never proven it. There ARE millions of migrants who have been let into our country with really no vetting and committing violent crimes (what do you think we should do to the illegals who raped for hours, killed and dumped the body in the river of that poor 12 yo girl (and MANY others)) because Biden reversed every border policy that worked for Trump. Dems have complained and questioned for years elections at all levels and every type even voting to not certify and seat electors so why is only this questioning by this side of the isle ‘unheard of and unacceptable’? What are you so terrified of? Democracy? Your fellow Americans electing who they want for president? Stop being such whiny little bitches!

[just-jim]

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Ken’s world……is an interesting place. It must be like Mr Roger’s neighborhood?
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[mister_coffee]

Nazi theory, indeed, specifically denies that such a thing as "the truth" exists. There is, for instance, no such thing as "Science". There is only "German Science", "Jewish Science", etc. The implied objective of this line of thought is a nightmare world in which the Leader, or some ruling clique, controls not only the future, but the past. If the Leader says of such and such an event, "It never happened"—well, it never happened. If he says that "two and two are five"—well, two and two are five. This prospect frightens me much more than bombs—and, after our experiences of the last few years [the Blitz, 1940–41] that is not a frivolous statement.

-- George Orwell, "Looking Back on the Spanish War" (1943)

In the end, the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable—what then?

-- George Orwell, 1984

I point these two quotes out because it demonstrates why Ken's beliefs are part of who he is, and why it is necessary for his own well-being to take those positions. His worldview would be shattered if he admitted he was wrong.

[just-jim]

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You never HAD any points - backed by a logical argument or ANY citations!

Repeating the twaddle Faux Nooz and OAN and Pee-Pants are shoving at you does not give you any credibility; facts do. And you never do have any facts. Instead, you’ve put yourself, again, in a position of having to believe black is white and 2+4 = 189.6. As we keep pointing out - its the only way your world CAN work - you have to keep swallowing the lies. I dont care if you want to live like that, but do not expect anyone else to go along with such made up horsesh+t….its insulting.

When your absence of any valid position is pointed out….you brought up TDS, not me.
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[dorankj]

Coming from a main bully here?! You always diverge from the issue being discussed when you see my counter points are highly inconvenient to the propaganda you’re trying to shove down everyone’s throats and ridicule if they don’t lick your boots in agreement. But that and utter hypocrisy is your stock and trade.

[just-jim]

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Yet… AGAIN, Ken….you enter a discussion and offer nothing, and have no facts or citations.

Then, when challenged or cornered on your offerings….you resort to name calling.
And then, get excited when the like is returned. Like FELON donnie….you are a thin-skinned bully.

Most of us learned how deal with that long ago…..
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[dorankj]

Once again you show what kind of low-life you are. You should keep your disgusting perversions to yourself and not project like you do on politics.

[just-jim]

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Typical.

Boot…no, wait….Butt-Licker….

Maybe we need to take up a collection to get you some more knee pads?
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[dorankj]

Boy your TDS is quite debilitating! The senile guy will not be re-elected.

[just-jim]

Look at the prices at the stores, gas stations and interest rates you knuckleheads! Real people care far more about that. “Lies, damn lies and statistics!”

Yes….due to the COMPLETELY Reckless, Irresponsible and EXACTLY Inflationary policies of FELON PEE-PANTS donnie……

Not that I expect you to understand it - or admit it - even if you did. I posted ‘pictures and graphs’ hoping this might help you, because I know you struggle with facts.

You still miss it…..
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[dorankj]

Look at the prices at the stores, gas stations and interest rates you knuckleheads! Real people care far more about that. “Lies, damn lies and statistics!”

[pasayten]

Come on Ken... Post some actual verifiable true economy figures... Not cherry picked spin for MAGA news sources and and their back slapping sheeple...

[PAL]

Thanks Jim. I was looking for these stats.
This is called Capitalism Ken. It is our system and it isn't really fair or sustainable. Do you really think Trump, I alone can fix it, will fix it? Like all of a sudden prices on all goods will go down. Nope. It is corporate greed and the market of supply and demand. It has always been this way.
It is good that Biden will raise taxes on the ultra wealthy who have not been paying their fair share. They will probably still find loop holes.
It is unpatriotic. It's out of balance. Trump will make it more so by lowering taxes on the wealthy. Trickle down does not work. Biden is trying to correct the slaying that Trump did.

[just-jim]

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As usual….Ken’s ignorant disregard of facts - and lack of any citation - just continues.

This is actually pretty easy stuff to fact check:
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The figure I find absolutely astonishing: The US Debt is now north of 32 Trillion $s. It took us 240 YEARS to get to that level. ONE QUARTER of all that debt - in excess of 7 TRILLION $$s - happened in just 4 years, under FELON donnie!

OH…..You STILL haven’t posted ANYTHING, Ken. Including your college degrees.
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[dorankj]

Just gas? Maybe expand a tad, have you seen housing prices/interest rates? How about food prices? Inflation, even fast food, all goods and materials, on and on! Everyone is seeing it, but sure some partisan biased report from unknown economists burying reality with ‘facts’ will take away everyone’s reality.

[Rideback]

Apparently the 'we' you are referring to are youtube cowboys and not economists Ken. There are no economic stats that demonstrate Trump's economy was better than Biden's. Sure the gas prices under Trump took a dive but it took a million people dying to get them there from his handling of covid.

Here's a well documented and balanced explanation. https://www.vox.com/politics/24094752/b ... -inflation

[PAL]

It should be pointed out that people are spending more money traveling now more than ever, all over the place, flying about, taking vacations.
There are stats that show this. So if the economy is so bad, why are there these record numbers of people traveling.
People at the poverty level are indeed the ones that suffer and they will suffer under a Trump admin.
You don't know that Biden will be dead in 4 yrs. What's to say Trump couldn't drop dead of a heart attack. He is blubbery.

[dorankj]

What a joke! This was predicted the first time by the dummy Krugman and he was flat wrong. We all know Trump’s economy was far superior than this mess Biden (or whoever is actually running things) created. You guys are just pitifully desperate to make everyone deny what they actually see as true. I’m sure now you’ll all just pile on bashing me personally because you don’t like what I (and millions of others) know to be true. Biden won’t be alive in 4 more years, no way he is fit to be president.

[PAL]

It would be great if Biden would emphasize these points in the debate. And his advisors want him to not expound on his accomplishments, and say what he will do.
I hope he listens to them.

[Rideback]

https://www.thedailypoliticususa.com/p/ ... irect=true

'A new letter signed by Nobel Prize-winning economists Joseph Stiglitz, George A. Akerlof, Sir Angus Deaton, Claudia Goldin, Sir Oliver Hart, Eric S. Maskin, Daniel L. McFadden, Paul R. Milgrom, Roger B. Myerson, Edmund S. Phelps, Paul M. Romer, Alvin E. Roth, William F. Sharpe, Robert J. Shiller, Christopher A. Sims, and Robert B. Wilson warned about Trump’s economic plans:

While each of us has different views on the particulars of various economic policies, we all agree that Joe Biden's economic agenda is vastly superior to Donald Trump.

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We believe that a second Trump term would have a negative impact on the U.S.'s economic standing in the world, and a destabilizing effect on the U.S.'s domestic economy.

Many Americans are concerned about inflation, which has come down remarkably fast. There is rightly a worry that Donald Trump will reignite this inflation, with his fiscally irresponsible budgets.

The warning from the Nobel Prize-winning economists comes on the heels of America’s Fortune 500 CEOs announcing that none of them will be supporting Donald Trump in 2024 due to his economic plan, which they view as “extremely inflationary. The tariffs, 10 percent across the board, on all imports, that’s just crazy. It’ll lead to a 3 percent increase for sure in inflation and plunging the GDP. And then he, and that’s before retaliatory gesture is the increase in the deficit. He wants to cut 5 trillion of taxes with no commensurate cut and expenditures.”

When America’s economists and top CEOs, two groups who no one would describe as radical liberals are sounding the alarm over what Trump wants to do, it is time to take a deeper look at what his plan could mean for the American people.'