Notice I added the "Beware" warning to the title of his post...Ray, it might be time to take away a platform that supports sociopathic Behavior
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Notice I added the "Beware" warning to the title of his post...Ray, it might be time to take away a platform that supports sociopathic Behavior
What I think I'm seeing here is somebody who is misunderstanding specific terminology used in a field by applying a lay persons definitions of that terminology.
At the risk of triggering people in a negative way on this BB, I'm just going to say that what I believe we are witnessing is the failure of germ theory. The total response to these symptomologies has been based on germ theory. The theory was never proven or it would have been a "Proof" or "Postulate". Sometimes the truth is hiding in plain sight. I think the time is right to have these discussions. For some reason the rigorous debates that scientists used to welcome are not happening... The science is never settled. I've heard it said that in science the exception is the rule. In other words, if something doesn't fit in with your theory you should study why it doesn't fit.
Are you sure that you know who the grifters are?Rideback wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:29 pm Yes, HIV has most definitely been isolated. Please do yourself a favor and quit watching the grifters.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10 ... 00193/full
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn ... -and-aids/
I guess you have to use science that I can understand to prove that SARS Cov.2 is actually transmitted through the air. There is no reason to be irritated by dissenting points of view. I'm being respectful, and staying in my lane. I'm not an outlier or a lonewolf here, although it may seem like it. From my point of view it is the side that you are on that lacks the science, and that is why they promote censorship. Come on...why should anybody be threatened by Joe Rogan? People like me would disappear if the science that you support was solid. I'm not doing this just to be a dissenter, or a denialist. I applaud Ray for not censoring points of view such as mine, and although you think it is not a good thing, I strongly believe that it is important. Afer all, you can just see what I type as just words on a page, and not pay any attention to it.PAL wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:27 pm Pearl this and Pearl that. What are age old symptoms? Please define in a couple of sentences. Also, since I am a complete ignoramus who does not listen to TV show producers, why don't you go tell all of the people that have loved ones that have died of AIDS and all of the 900,000 plus that have died from Covid, these things. They really need to know this.
Damn straight I don't want to have a productive discussion with you as you have to be right all the time. You have a right to your beliefs but they are not science based. I merely pointed out that HIV is not transmitted by air and that is a fact.
Pull your head out as Micky and Pasayten have suggested.
It is hard to have an intelligent conversation with one stuck so far out in the weeds with his quacks and voodoo science that no real intelligent discussion can happen... Folks are trying... They really are...I have to pick and choose my battles. I'm not going to get stuck in the weeds over whether HIV has special characteristics since if Pearl was really paying attention to what I have been sharing she might have realized that the "HIV" virus has never been isolated, so how can we have an intelligent discussion over a non-existent virus.
I have to pick and choose my battles. I'm not going to get stuck in the weeds over whether HIV has special characteristics since if Pearl was really paying attention to what I have been sharing she might have realized that the "HIV" virus has never been isolated, so how can we have an intelligent discussion over a non-existent virus. Perhaps the correct thing to say is that the establishment scientists say that HIV is not a respiratory virus. There is a lot to untangle before we can have a productive conversation. Pearl does not understand that HIV is not the cause of AIDS, and that AIDS was not a new disease, but it was a new diagnosis of a a whole list of age old diseases, and the people who got these age old diseases without a positive HIV test would get treated according to age old protocols, but those people who had the exact same set of symptoms, but happened to test positive on a completely nonsensical HIV test were given a different protocol because even though they had age old symptoms, suddenly they were given an HIV diagnosis, and given a treatment for HIV, so like I said there is a lot to unravel for us to have a productive conversation. I believe that the symptoms being observed to be SARS Cov.2 are endogenously created as I believe it is the same for every other virus, so from my point of view the whole mask thing is absurd in any setting as long as there are no toxic vectors. If I believe the symptoms that cause a cold arise from within the cell rather than from the breath of another person, but Pearl believes you catch a cold from a virus outside yourself then we can't really have a productive discussion. From my point of view, the hospitals that have required nurses to mask up for their 12 hour shift if they don't get the Flu shot is abuse, and designed to intimidate that group, and it creates division. Also, it creates "theater" that is not science based. The other thing is that when you eliminate a substantial control group by restricting their air, it takes away the chance to observe how the vaxxed group really does compared to a non-vaxxed group without the masks.Mickey M. wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:28 amhe really needs to take a look at how he is being duped.
Pearl debunked his whole reported HIV vs masks misinfo by pointing out that HIV is not an airborne virus.That took one sentence.
Now he considers a TV show producer selling snake oil to wrinkled bald people credible simply because he has a lot of followers.
They have him believing that facts don't exist. He seems to be intelligent and articulate but for some reason these conspiracy theories speak to him.
Brad, you need to unplug for a while. Break the connection (addiction) and let your brain function as it should. See brain plasticity.
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Brad probably believes that Del has products that could grow hair on a bowling ball...Doesn't 'The Doctors' TV show just try to sell wrinkle removers and hair grow products?
Sorry Brad... I do not consider your quacks with their fake science causing any transition. Maybe start looking for real scientists with bonafide data for your arguments... Otherwise this is just all a waste of bandwidth...This is definitely a transitional time period for science. DR Andrew Kaufman co-produced a film. You can watch The World Premiere free of charge through Sunday because of overwhelming demand. This is a terrain breaking film on this controversial topic, so this is a time to truly get educated on what the terrain is all about...
woodman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 7:11 pmThis is definitely a transitional time period for science. DR Andrew Kaufman co-produced a film. You can watch The World Premiere free of charge through Sunday because of overwhelming demand. This is a terrain breaking film on this controversial topic, so this is a time to truly get educated on what the terrain is all about...Rideback wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:31 pm Your 'doctor' Robert Young is a doozy. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38650739
And the 'terrain theory'? Really?
Oh, and Andrew Kaufman is a spectacular grifter. I actually thought this was an interesting article on him.
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid ... es-reality
terrainthefilm.com The feature presentation begins at 3:03:00.
Also, I clicked on your link, and the critical article mentions something about the appendix. I don't really know what the role of the appendix is in the human body, although according to terrain theory you would consider upstream causes of disease instead of just removing the diseased tissue. I am quite certain that the tonsils play an important role in the immune system, but apparently quite a few children back in the '60's had their tonsils removed, and it apparently was thought to be of no value, so if it is inflamed (because there is some imbalance), it is removed due to infection (although the bacteria infestation is only there due to another cause). Just as we all have streptococcus bacteria, but it only gets inflamed when there is a causal factor in the environment, and bacteria is not the cause, but the bacteria is there to clean up already diseased tissue. Many people these days, even young people in their 20's, have had their thyroid removed, or part of it removed, but there are upstream causes of thyroid disease that, if addressed, will heal the thyroid, and help to avoid surgery, and hormone replacement medication.
As you already know, the idea of terrain theory is that a "virus" or a "bacteria" is endogenously created meaning that the symptoms arise from within the cells of the body like a form of housecleaning of the intercellular material. An exosome is produced within the cell. Pleomorphism is a more in depth description of what is observed in electron microscopy within the cell when it is under stress.. According to terrain theory, you can't catch a cold, but the symptoms of a cold are as a result of endogenous housecleaning.
You may be correct about Fauci, but on a recent video, Del Bigtree claimed that Fauci never saw patients, and Del has a huge following. He may not have done his research on that, but he used to be the Producer of "The Doctors" tv program. I do know there was a lot of fear mongering around Ebola, but patient zero, who I think came to the US from Africa did not spread the disease like all the hype led us to believe. I think this one person was the only person to die from Ebola, so to call it a contagious disease is laughable like everything else. OJ Simpson killed twice as many people as Ebola did. That's spectacular!Rideback wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:09 am So, you are using the words of an annonymous blogger to form an opinion rather than look at the quotes from his employers for the last 54 years, amazing, so did you see that Fauci actually doesn't just treat patients on a regular basis to this day but that he also treated Ebola patients personally? You are so bent on your opinion that you can't even recognize the common sense of not believing in grifters, like Dr. Oz.
'However, in a statement emailed to FactCheck.org, the NIAID rebutted Oz’s claims about Fauci.
“Dr. Fauci is currently a senior attending physician at the National Institutes of Health Clinical Center where he has been seeing patients continually for the past 54 years since his infectious diseases fellowship that began in 1968,” the NIAID said. “He has seen, consulted on and/or personally taken care of literally thousands of patients over the years at the NIH Clinical Center. He has never stopped seeing patients, and he still makes regular Clinical Rounds at the NIH Clinical Center, including COVID-19 patients.”
“He is not just a ‘virologist,'” the NIAID statement continued. “[R]ather he is an immunologist/infectious diseases expert who is board certified by the American Board of Internal Medicine, the American Board of Infectious Diseases and the American Board of Allergy and Immunology. He is internationally recognized for his basic and clinical research contributions to HIV and other areas of human health.”
Dr. Fauci walks with his arm around Nina Pham, a nurse who was successfully treated at the NIH’s Clinical Center after being infected with Ebola in 2014. Photo by Alex Wong/Getty Images.
Fauci has previously talked about making time to treat patients, including in a November 2020 interview with the HuffPost. He said that his long workday on Thanksgiving eve that year included many meetings and press interviews, but also making rounds at the NIH Clinical Center in Bethesda, Maryland, to see “two very seriously ill COVID patients.”
When Economic Club of Washington, D.C., President David Rubenstein asked Fauci in a January 2021 interview why he was still seeing patients, Fauci said it was because it is part of who he is as a physician.
“I see patients, David, because my identity, my primary identity, is as a physician and that really informs and influences everything that I do,” Fauci explained. “My public health work, my basic scientific work, the kinds of things I do in response as a public health person to an outbreak — whether that’s HIV/AIDS or Ebola or Zika or in this case, COVID-19 — everything evolves back to my identity as a physician. So, I don’t ever want to lose that strong identity.”
“It really connects you with the reality of what you’re dealing with,” Fauci went on to say. “So, when I start talking about the disease, what it can do, what you can do to prevent getting it, why vaccines are important, the very fact that you’re dealing with a real human being who’s suffering from the disease gives you a perspective that you can’t get by reading about it.”
This is definitely a transitional time period for science. DR Andrew Kaufman co-produced a film. You can watch The World Premiere free of charge through Sunday because of overwhelming demand. This is a terrain breaking film on this controversial topic, so this is a time to truly get educated on what the terrain is all about...Rideback wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:31 pm Your 'doctor' Robert Young is a doozy. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38650739
And the 'terrain theory'? Really?
Oh, and Andrew Kaufman is a spectacular grifter. I actually thought this was an interesting article on him.
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid ... es-reality
Ha Ha... disprove to who??? Do not think you have disproved anything with your fake science web links... Just saying...I have been able to disprove theories about other viruses that have had a profound effect on human behavior, and this is the point of view that has formed my current views on Covid.
I have been able to disprove theories about other viruses that have had a profound effect on human behavior, and this is the point of view that has formed my current views on Covid. I believe that to separate viruses according to the alledged abilities that they have to infect in different ways is really misleading. A so-called virus is not really alive. It has no central nervous system. A virus has never been seen to move. It does not have the ability to plan an attack. When I have taken more of a big picture look, and what other factors contribute to disease I find myself aligned with terrain theory. Take the analogy of a dolphin or a goldfish that has developed a sickness. What is the first thing you are going to think about as being the cause? You are not going to conclude that the problem is a virus or a bacteria. The first thing you would do is consider the environment. You would consider changing the water if it is the goldfish, not giving a medicine to the goldfish.mister_coffee wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:06 am What I just can't figure out is that a lot of people have done a complete 180 intellectually.
What I mean by that is that a lot of people I know personally who would never wear a mask, never get the COVID vaccine, and who insist I should not "live in fear" were the same people who were freaked out about catching HIV from a mosquito bite or who would never "take any chances" with a generally minor infection like giardia.
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